Ancestors of Christopher John Augustine Morry

Mary Mitcvhell

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: 1794 - Noke, Corn Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Spouses and Children

1. *John Peter ¹⁰ Marriage: 12 Apr 1819 - Padstow, Cornwall, England Children: 1. Living 2. Living 3. Living 4. Living

Honour Moary

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: Bef 29 Dec 1778 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁴⁹⁸⁸ Christening: 29 Dec 1778 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁴⁹⁸⁸ Death: Burial: 26 Sep 1779 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁴⁹⁸⁸ Cause of Death:

Parents

Father: Capt. Matthew Morry ⁷⁸ ^,109 ^,168 ^,2962 ^,2970 Mother: Mary Graham ⁷⁸ ^,109 ^,168 Marriage Did Not Marry

Notes
General:

190113:

I am entering this person as a child of Matthew and Mary without any proof of the fact that she is. The records of birth and death from which I have this information appear in the photocopy of a second generation handwritten copy of the Anglican Cathedral Register and in the Vital Statistics transcript made from that copy in the early 20th century. The original registers may or may not still exist but if they do they have proven impossible for me to find and access despite repeated efforts at The Rooms and the Cathedral. So I am taking the liberty of entering this information here pro temps in hopes of proving one day that the original register states the father to be "Matt" and not "Mark".

Vital Records entry:

Date of Birth: Unknown Place of Birth: Not Given Parents Names: Moary, Mark and Mary Christian name of Child: Honour Sex: F By Whom Baptised: Not Given Date of Baptism: Dec. 29, 1778 Religious Denomination: Anglican Father's Occupation: Not Given Remarks:

Anglican Cathedral Register (copy) entry:

Baptisms in 1778 Page 71

Honr. Dr. Mark Moary & Mary Dec. 29

Burial in 1779 page 78

Honour Dr. of Mary Moary Sept. 26

[NB 140718: This is a mistake in the Vital Statistics transcription of the original register or the transcript now at the Cathedral. What the original register reads is "Honour, Dr. of Mark Moary, 26 [Sept. 1779]]

There are no records in existence of a Mark Moary (Morey, Morry or any other spelling) in the international database kept by Geoffrey Williams that could be associated with this man. I am therefore inclined to believe that the person in question was actually Matthew (Matt) Morry and that he brought his wife Mary with him to Newfoundland that year. This was after his first year as Captain and owner of the Brigantine Mary and he would have been entitled to bring his wife with him, as many captains did in those days. Following this reasoning, they apparently spent at least a year in Newfoundland, during which time they had a daughter named Honour, who unfortunately died soon afterward. The father is not mentioned in the burial record most likely because he was not present, being at sea.

There is a gap in the record of Matthew's sea career during this period that cannot otherwise be explained. Similarly, there is a gap in the dates of birth of their other children christened in Dartmouth during this period that also cannot be explained. The pieces all fit but for the man's name on that one baptism record. Without seeing the original Anglican Cathedral register this theory cannot be proven but I still believe that it is the most logical explanation of these events.

110613 See the theory explained in the Notes heading above.

Further to this, I have spent two days at The Rooms this year exploring all the Anglican Cathedral records pertaining to this birth-baptism and death-burial. There are actually four sets of records: 1. a microfilm purporting to represent images made of the original register for these years, among other registers 2. a photocopy of the above microfilm records 3. a register book that acknowledges on its cover that it is a transcript made later (date and author unknown) which covers these same years and entries, with some obvious transcription errors 4. the Vital Statistics records made in the early 20th century which apparently were made from the transcription above and contain many of the same errors

I have made photographic copies of all of these entries, though obviously only the purported original register is to be trusted. On my second visit I was able to make use of a new and sophisticated computer-based scanner that reads microfilms and permits adjustments in brightness, contrast, focus, magnification etc. This is a vast improvement over earlier microfilm readers. It permiited me to make close-ups of the names of the father and mother on the baptismal and burial records respectively. These are included here. While these do not support my theory that the father was Matthew Morry, I remain unconvinved that this is the original register and, even if it is, it is entirely possible that the person who wrote the original entry made a mistake and entered the name as Mark instead of Matt.

[NB: As an addendum to the information above entered on 110613, I actually made photographs and scans of all three of the versions of the register in 2013: The alledged original register; the admitted transcript made sometime later, which is much neater and in a clearer hand; and the DPHW vital statistics sheets made in the 1920s-1930s. The latter two are not to be trusted because they are not original and in fact contain some serious errors. For example, the burial record is said to show "Honour, daughter of Mary Moary" in both the transcript and the DPHW vital statistics record, when the aledged "original" register says "Honour, daughter of Mark Moary".

190716:
Today I was finally able to make contact with the volunteer archivist at the Anglican Cathedral (Barbara Eddy 1-709-579-3820) and she agreed to show me their earliest register. Unfortunately, what she took to be the original register was the one that had clearly marked on the cover "this register is only a transcript". Needless to say, it clearly showed the father's name as Mark and not Matt. I knew this already and had hoped to see the document from which this transcript was made. Either it does not exist any longer, burned in the fire that destroyed the Cathedral in the 1850s as she said, or it exists, but she has not been made aware of its existence and where to find it. I suspect the latter. The Archdiocese probably is protecting it elsewhere and they may not even know that they still have it. The transcript is far too new looking to have been made as long ago as 1850. Also, there is a microfilm version of what purports to be the original register at The Rooms. So the document from which it is made must exist somewhere. So the hunt continues!

280618:
On the day of my arrival in Newfoundland by coincidence I received an email response from the Archdiocesan Synod Office on Kings Bridge Rd. as to whether they have the original register there. According to their volunteer archivist, Peter Chalker, they do not! Obviously it still exists or microfilms and photocopies could not have been made of it. But no one will admit to knowing where it is to be found.

Living

Sex: M

Spouses and Children

1. Living

Jennet Moary

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: Bef 9 Sep 1724 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁴⁹⁴ ^,496 ^,1203 ^,6740 Christening: 9 Sep 1724 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁴⁹⁴ ^,1203 ^,6741 Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Parents

Father: John Morey ¹⁶⁸ ^,497 ^,498 ^,1205 Mother: Elizabeth Stone ⁷⁸ ^,168 ^,454 ^,1202 ^,5262

Notes
General:

040414 from FreeReg.org.uk:

County Devon
Place Stoke Gabriel
Church Stoke Gabriel
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 09 Sep 1724
Forename Jennet
Sex F
FatherForename John
MotherForename Elizabeth
FatherSurname MOARY
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 21729

Joan Moary

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: Bef 7 Sep 1717 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁴⁹⁴ ^,496 ^,1203 Christening: 7 Sep 1717 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁶⁷⁴² Death: Burial: Cause of Death:
Events
• Alt. Christening: 14 Sep 1714, Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England.

Parents

Father: John Morey ¹⁶⁸ ^,497 ^,498 ^,1205 Mother: Elizabeth Stone ⁷⁸ ^,168 ^,454 ^,1202 ^,5262

Spouses and Children

1. *John Street ⁴⁹⁴ ^,497 ^,1202 Marriage: 15 Jan 1738/39 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁴⁹⁴ ^,497 ^,1202

Notes
General:

05/10/01: This individual did not appear before in our records or those on the LDS site but was observed in the microfilm records of Stoke Gabriel Parish at Maritime History Archive, St. John's, Newfoundland

060803: Email from John Tolcher: "Joan later marries John Street on 15th Jan 1739 at Stoke Gabriel"

Stoke Gabriel Church burial records viewed at Maritime History Archive on Aug. 29, 2001 show: "May 2, 1716 Joan of John Moary." The surname could be Morry as the microfilm is blurry but I think it was Moary.

150204: There is a problem here with the reported burial date of May 02, 1716 as recorded by Aunt Jean on the LDS website. Geoffrey Williams, John Tolcher and LDS have a marriage record for this person and she therefore did not die in infancy. It is possible however that there were two Joan's with the first dying in infancy and the "replacement" surviving to marry. But there is only one birth record. This needs to be verified. In the meantime, I am removing the burial record.

300510: Lanny recorded a different baptismal date while in Exeter: "7 Sep 1717, baptism of Joan, daughter of John and Elizabeth Mory"

If she has it recorded correctly this would make sense. It would mean that Joan I died in 1716 and and Joan II was born in 1717. On this basis I am making the changes today pending confirmation.

Joan Moary

Sex: F
AKA: Joan Morey
Individual Information

Birth Date: Bef 7 Sep 1714 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England Christening: 7 Sep 1714 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ³⁵⁷ ^,6743 Death: Bef 1 May 1716 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁶⁷⁴⁴ Burial: 2 May 1716 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁶⁷⁴⁵ Cause of Death:
Events
• Alt. Death: Bef 2 Apr 1716, Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England.
• Alt. Burial: 2 Apr 1716, Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England.

Parents

Father: John Morey ¹⁶⁸ ^,497 ^,498 ^,1205 Mother: Elizabeth Stone ⁷⁸ ^,168 ^,454 ^,1202 ^,5262 Marriage Did Not Marry

Notes
General:

300510:

Stoke Gabriel Church burial records viewed at Maritime History Archive on Aug. 29, 2001 show: "May 2, 1716 Joan of John Moary." The surname could be Morry as the microfilm is blurry but I think it was Moary.

There is a problem here with the reported burial date of May 02, 1716 as recorded by Aunt Jean on the LDS website. Geoffrey Williams, John Tolcher and LDS have a marriage record for this person and she therefore did not die in infancy. It is possible however that there were two Joan's with the first dying in infancy and the "replacement" surviving to marry. But there is only one birth record. This needs to be verified. I am therefore making this change today.

040414 from FreeReg.org.uk:

County Devon
Place Stoke Gabriel
Church Stoke Gabriel
Register Number
Date Of Birth
Baptism Date 07 Sep 1714
Forename Joan
Sex F
Father Forename John
Mother Forename Elizabeth
Father Surname MOARY
Mother Surname
Abode
Father Occupation
Notes
File Number 21729

Here is her burial record from FreeReg (note that they mistakenly gave the month as April when it should be May):

County Devon
Place Stoke Gabriel
Church Stoke Gabriel
RegisterNumber
BurialDate 02 Apr 1716
Forename Joan
Relationship Dau of
Rel1MaleForename John
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname MOARY
Surname
Age
Abode
Notes
FileNumber 21728

John Moary

Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: Stokeinteignhead, Devonshire, England ⁶⁷⁴⁶ Christening: Death: Bef 6 Sep 1778 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁶⁷⁴⁶ Burial: 6 Sep 1778 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁶⁷⁴⁶ Cause of Death:

Notes
General:

170213:

I am puzzled by this person's existence in the Burial Register of the Anglican Cathedral as found transcribed by Jill Marshall on the NGB website. To the best of my knowledge there never were any people named Moary living in Newfoundland. Of course the name could as easily been written down incorrectly in the original Burial Register or transcribed incorrectly when the copy that exists at The Rooms was made sometime later. The original register is apparently no longer in existence and only the later transcript, present in photocopied form at The Rooms, was available for Jill Marshall to transcribe. I know she transcribed the entry faithfully from the photocopy at The Rooms because I saw it there myself last summer. But that does not mean that it was written down correctly in either the original register or the handwritten transcript that was made some years later.

The fact that his place of abobe was given as Stokeinteignhead does not necessarily have to be taken as fact. He was a mariner most likely, without family in Newfoundland, and therefore no one to confirm his place of birth or residence. It is possible that he is one of the Dartmouth Morey/Morry crowd but there is no way to prove it definitively. So for now I am simply adding his name to the database but without connecting him to the family line.

Mathew Moary

Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: Bef 29 Dec 1725 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁴⁹⁴ ^,496 ^,6748 Christening: 29 Dec 1725 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ³⁵⁷ ^,494 ^,1203 ^,6749 ^,6750 Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Parents

Father: John Morey ¹⁶⁸ ^,497 ^,498 ^,1205 Mother: Elizabeth Stone ⁷⁸ ^,168 ^,454 ^,1202 ^,5262

Notes
General:

This information from International Genealogical Index Batch # C052442. Not clear if this is an ancestor or relative of Morry line.

040414

There is no such doubt any more as expressed above. He is an ancestor.

from FreeReg.org.uk:

County Devon
Place Stoke Gabriel
Church Stoke Gabriel
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 29 Nov 1725
Forename Mathew
Sex M
FatherForename John
MotherForename Elizabeth
FatherSurname MOARY
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 21729

Susanna Moary

Sex: F
AKA: Susanna Morey
Individual Information

Birth Date: Bef 12 Nov 1718 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁴⁹⁶ ^,1203 Christening: 12 Nov 1718 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ³⁵⁷ ^,494 ^,1203 Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Parents

Father: John Morey ¹⁶⁸ ^,497 ^,498 ^,1205 Mother: Elizabeth Stone ⁷⁸ ^,168 ^,454 ^,1202 ^,5262

Notes
General:

040414 from Freereg.org.uk:
County Devon
Place Stoke Gabriel
Church Stoke Gabriel
Register Number
Date Of Birth
Baptism Date 12 Nov 1718
Forename Susanna
Sex F
Father Forename John
Mother Forename Elizabeth
Father Surname MOARY
Mother Surname
Abode
Father Occupation
Notes
File Number 21729

William Moary

Sex: M
AKA: William Morey
Individual Information

Birth Date: Bef 14 Aug 1720 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁴⁹⁴ ^,496 ^,1203 Christening: 14 Aug 1720 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁴⁹⁴ ^,1203 Death: Bef 25 Feb 1729/30 - Dartmouth, Devon, England ³⁵⁷ ^,496 Burial: 25 Feb 1729/30 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ³⁵⁷ ^,494 ^,496 ^,1203 Cause of Death:
Events
• Alt. Death: 1 Feb 1728/29, Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England.

Parents

Father: John Morey ¹⁶⁸ ^,497 ^,498 ^,1205 Mother: Elizabeth Stone ⁷⁸ ^,168 ^,454 ^,1202 ^,5262 Marriage Did Not Marry

Notes
General:

05/10/01: Note also that in the microfilm records of Stoke Gabriel parish that I viewed at the Maritime History Archive in St. John's in Sept. 2001, the record of death of son William reads: " Feb. 25, 1730 William of John Morry of Dartmouth". This suggests John was not from Stoke Gabriel any more but actually Dartmouth at time of death of son in 1730 so must have moved there before 1730, possibly in 1729 at the time of death of his first wife, Elizabeth Stone.

040414 from FreeReg.org.uk:

County Devon
Place Stoke Gabriel
Church Stoke Gabriel
RegisterNumber
Date Of Birth
Baptism Date 14 Aug 1720
Forename William
Sex M
Father Forename John
Mother Forename Elizabeth
Father Surname MOARY
Mother Surname
Abode
Father Occupation
Notes
File Number 21729

Here is his death register entry. Note that this supports the previous evidence that while he died in Dartmouth he was buried in Stoke Gabriel. This was right at the time the family was transitioning to living in Dartmouth.

County Devon
Place Stoke Gabriel
Church Stoke Gabriel
RegisterNumber
BurialDate 25 Feb 1729/30
Forename William
Relationship Son of
Rel1MaleForename John
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname MOARY
Surname
Age
Abode Dartmouth
Notes
FileNumber 21728

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