Richard Morrey
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth Date: 26 Oct 1786 - St. Saviour's, Dartmouth, Devon, England Christening: 1 Jun 1787 - St. Saviour's, Dartmouth, Devon, England 224 Death: Burial: Cause of Death:
Parents
Father: Capt. Richard Morrey 161,518,1389,2184 Mother: Mary Downing 161,224
Notes
General:
From Margaret Dickson 301106: 5) Baptism of Richard MORREY 26.10. 1786 St Sav. Son of Richard and Mary Morrey- privately baptised... source- original registers. This was often done if the infant was ill and not thought likely to survive. Did this Richard die young, ie from your database?. See next paragraph (ie 6)
6) Baptism of Richard MORREY 1.6.1787. St Sav. Son of Richard and Mary Morrey- source- original registers. If this infant belonged to the same parents as paragraph 5, then it just about feasible for Mary to have become pregnant again a few weeks after the baptism and (presumed) early death of the 1786 infant, and if the next baby was premature (8 mths), then this could just about be the same family, and a 'replacement' infant named Richard.
Richard Morrey
Sex: MAKA: Richard Morey 497
Individual Information
Birth Date: Bef 23 Apr 1745 - St. Clement Townstal, Dartmouth, Devon, England Christening: 23 Apr 1745 - St. Clement Townstal, Dartmouth, Devon, England 497,4321 Death: Burial: Cause of Death:Events
Alt. Birth: St. Clement Townstal Church, 1847, Dartmouth, Devon, England. Keith Matthews reports that this birth record appeared twice in the Townstall register but it seems more likely one entry recorded the birth and the second the christening.
Parents
Father: George Morey 499,500 Mother: Agnes Lowe 109,2180
Notes
General:
Email from Margaret Dickson 301106: "Baptism of Richard MORREY 23.4.1745 at St Sav... source DFHS Transcripts. Need to double check that back at DFHS, as couldnt find it under St Sav."
Capt. Richard Morrey
Sex: MAKA: Capt. Richard Morey 4321, Capt. Richard Morry 6831,6832,6833
Individual Information
Birth Date: Bef 11 Jan 1758 - Dartmouth, Devon, England 497,6834 Christening: 11 Jan 1758 - Dartmouth, Devon, England 6834 Death: 19 Nov 1805 - France 6835 Burial: Cause of Death: Died in prison, a French prisoner of warEvents
Occupation: Mariner, 27 Dec 1785, Dartmouth, Devon, England. Master Mariner.
Occupation: Master of HELFORD -- Plymouth to Newfoundland, Between 20 Oct 1787 and 20 Mar 1878, Plymouth, Devon, England. The name in the finding aid was typed as Movney but corrected by someone (me?) in pencil to Morrey.
Occupation: Master of HELFORD - on the Banks of Newfoundland, Between 5 May 1788 and 20 Dec 1788, Plymouth, Devon, England. Finding Aid Reads:
Helford -- Morrey, Richard -- The Banks of NF -- 1788-05-05 -- 1788-12-20 203F 1-3-4-4. Occupation: Master of the CUMBERLAND, to Newfoundland, Between 9 Mar 1790 and 12 Dec 1790, Dartmouth, Devon, England.
Occupation: Master of the CUMBERLAND to Newfoundland, Between 31 Mar 1791 and 9 Jan 1792, Dartmouth, Devon, England.
Occupation: Master and Commander of the DORSETSHIRE, 1804, Dartmouth, Devon, England.
Military: French Prisoner of War, 19 Nov 1805, France.
Parents
Father: Richard Morey 2180 Mother: Mary Blackler 497,2180
Spouses and Children
1. *Mary Downing 161,224 Marriage: 27 Dec 1785 - Dartmouth, Devon, England 161,1205,1389,1799,2180,3166Marriage Events
Minister/Priest: Walthall Gretton, Curate, 27 Dec 1785, St. Clement Townstal, Dartmouth, Devon, England.
Witnesses: John C. Downing & G. Gillard, 27 Dec 1785, Dartmouth, Devon, England. Marriage Notes
From Dartmouth HIstory Archives website record of marriages in St. Clements:Children: 1. Richard Morrey 2. Mary Morrey 3. Honor Caroline Morrey 4. Nicholas Milward Morey
27/12/1785: Richard MOREY of St. Saviors, Mariner & Mary DOWNING, by Licence. Both sign. Wits: John C. Downing & G. Gillard.
190613: From transcript by Cornwall and Devon Record Society viewed at the Maritime History Archive on microfilm made by the Mormons: Morrey, Richard. of Saint Saviours, Mariner, & Mary Downing, by Lic. (John C. Downing, G. Gillard).
NB: Richard witnesses the marriage of George Gillard, shipwright, to Mary Oliver, by Lic. on 18 Apr 1785, along with Anthony Plumleigh.
130217:
Richard Morrey
mentioned in the record of Richard Morrey and Mary Downing
Name Richard Morrey
Spouse's Name Mary Downing
Event Date 27 Dec 1785
Event Place Townstal Or St Clement,Dartmouth,Devon,England
Citing this Record
"England Marriages, 1538-1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N25Z-NQD : 10 December 2014), Richard Morrey and Mary Downing, 27 Dec 1785; citing Townstal Or St Clement,Dartmouth,Devon,England, reference ; FHL microfilm 917,194.
060423 from FMP:
England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription
First name(s)Mary
Last nameDowning
Name note-
Marriage year1785
Marriage date27 Dec 1785
Marriage placeDartmouth
Spouse's first name(s)Richard
Spouse's last nameMorrey
Spouse's age-
CountyDevon
CountryEngland
Record setEngland Marriages 1538-1973
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryParish Marriages
Collections fromEngland, United Kingdom
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl
AND
Devon Marriages Transcription
First name(s)Mary
Last nameDowning
Marriage year1785
Marriage date27 Dec 1785
Spouse's first name(s)Richard
Spouse's last nameMorrey
PlaceDartmouth, St Clement Townstall
ParishSt Clement
City or townDartmouth
DenominationAnglican
CountyDevon
CountryEngland
ArchiveSouth West Heritage Trust
Record setDevon Marriages And Banns
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryParish Marriages
Collections fromEngland, United Kingdom
Devon Family History Society
Transcriptions Β© Devon Family History Society
AND
Devon Marriages Transcription
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First name(s)Mary
Last nameDowning
Birth year-
Age-
Marriage year1785
Marriage date27 Dec 1785
PlaceDartmouth, St Clement Townstall
DenominationAnglican
ResidenceDartmouth St Clement Townstall
Spouse's first name(s)Richard
Spouse's last nameMorrey
Spouse's age-
Spouse's residenceSaint Saviour, Dartmouth
CountyDevon
CountryEngland
ArchiveSouth West Heritage Trust
Archive reference2993A/PR/1/9
Record setDevon Marriages And Banns
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryParish Marriages
Collections fromEngland, United Kingdom
Β© Findmypast
Notes
General:
060706:
Email from Margaret Dickson:
"PS The Richard Morrey who married Mary Downing (definitely transcribed as Downing, not Donning, as on IGI), on 27.12 1785, at St Saviours was a mariner. I still think its their daughter Mary who married William Prinn. An interesting clue is that a Susanna Downing married on 1.2.1791 at St Clement..... could have been sisters. She married a man called Nicholas Millward. The name Millward is a clue to something. 1) When the daughter of William Prinn and his wife Mary ( ie Mary Prinn) married William Downing in Dartmouth their first son was named William Millward Downing. Second son was Philip Henry Downing. William Downing (a sawyer) and his wife Mary (nee Prinn) lived in Torquay, Dartmouth then Kingsbridge. 2) One of the sons of Philip Henry Downing and his wife Catherine (nee Thompson) had Millward as a second name. Why was this name of Millward so important in the family over 100 years?
Ethel May Downing was the first child of Philip Henry Downing, and she was Ray's grandmother."
081106: I have just discovered in the Devon FHS church transcriptions that this marriage took place at St. Clement, not St. Saviour, as Geoffrey Williams database indicates. Need to verify this with Margaret and Ray Dickson as this is very important to them.
301106: There are two Richard Morrey of the vintage between 1740-1760: the one born/baptised 23 Apr 1745 at St. Clement, not St. Saviour is the son of George Moary and Agnes Lowe and I have support for these facts from my original material (Aunt Jean Funkhouser's research) and from the Geoffrey Williams database, who may simply have been using her research data. Another (this one) I have shown as being born/baptised 11 Jan1758 at St. Saviour, parents being Richard Moary and Mary Blackler, and I have him as the husband of Mary Downing. I had included him as the husband of Mary Downing before Margaret Dickson and I began our correspondence, based I suppose on my Aunt Jean's making that connection once again. Margaret did not find information on the 1758 Richard in her search of the microfilms and she therefore favoured the other Richard Morrey, born/baptised 23 April 1745, as the real husband of Mary.
How can we sort this out? Is it possible there were two Richard Morreys in Dartmouth at this time? In my files at earlier dates I have Richard Moary (the parent of 1758 Richard), Richard Morey and Richard Mory. So it could be a spelling problem. I have a sick feeling that there WERE two contemporary Richard Morreys in Dartmouth and not only that but they both married a woman named Mary (not hard to imagine) and both had first sons they named Richard (also not hard to imagine) months apart in 1786/87. What do you think? If this is the case it will be extremely difficult to separate which children belonged to which set of Richard and Mary Morrey parents. I've had this problem before with other pairs of similarly named parents and I never was able to straighten it out.
I did not previously have either of the two Richard Junior births in my records that Margaret discovered in her search, so until we get this mess sorted out it will be difficult for me to be sure where to place them. To which set of parents should I attribute each of the two Richard Juniors? 1745 Richard I do not show as having married at this time for lack of any information on him.
There is another possibility than the one suggested above (that there were two similarly named couples). The ill infant baptised privately in 1786 recovered and 8 months later the parents took him to be properly baptised at the church. In that case there would only be one Richard Junior to be accounted for and I could leave 1745 Richard as a bachelor. I'm tentatively using this explanation for now.
070116:
We don't know exactly where or when Richard died. Being a mariner, in all liklihood it was at sea, since no gravestone has been located near that of his wife. But we do know that he died before she did in 1841, because she was noted to be a widow at the time of her death.
110316:
Today I received 28 pages of a document (D1187 - Contested Cause - Captured Ship Dorsetshire Master Morry) from the National Archives (Kew) pertaining to a contestation of the ownership of the cargo on board a vessel named the DORSETSHIRE in 1804. This vessel had been taken as a Prize by the French privateer, SORCIΙRE, and then recaptured by the Royal Navy vessel MOUCHERON (obviously captured from the French also, given its name). The Master and Commander of the DORSETSHIRE's name was given as Richard Morry (note the spelling) and he testified that the vessel was owned by Matthew Morry and Walter Prideaux. This Richard Morry could be none other than the Richard Morrey, as I have him and as Margaret Dickson had him. He was known to be a Master Mariner and no other man with a similar name in Dartmouth existed at the time at an age suitable to be this person. Since the vessel was captured by a Royal Naval vessel in the hands of a French crew attempting to return it to France for either a bounty or for sale, when the vessel was recaptured by the Royal Navy it became the property of the Crown, with the naval vessel's captain and crew entitled to a portion of the Prize money. Both Matthew Morry and Company and the owner of the cargo, a man named Lyme from Portsmouth filed a claim for return of these goods and the vessel. As is frustratingly normal for the court cases at the Archives, the decision in this case is not contained in the files. Note that Richard Morry/Morrey and Matthew Morry were 1st cousins.
Because the consistent spelling of his name in this case was Morry, the same as Matthew, I have chosen to use that spelling for Richard's surname henceforth.
130818:
Today I discovered on FindMyPast a list of English prisoners of war captured by the French during the Napoleonic wars who died in captivity. Richard Morry's name appeared on that list. He died in a French prison on Nov. 19, 1805, one year after the capture of his vessel, the DORSETSHIRE.
I also discovered on this Wikipedia webpage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shipwrecks_in_1810 ) that an English vessel named the DORSETSHIRE was sunk and lost in the St. Lawrence River in 1810. Though there may have been more than one vessel of that name, I suspect that this was the same vessel and that Matthew Morry did not regain possession of the ship, which was likely being used by the Royal Navy at the time in preparations prior to the War of 1812.
Robert Morrey
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth Date: in Shaldon with Ringmore, Devon, England 1009 Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:Events
Occupation: Shipwright, 3 Dec 1823, Shaldon with Ringmore, Devon, England.
Residence: Shaldon Green, 14 Dec 1823, Shaldon with Ringmore, Devon, England.
Spouses and Children
1. *May 1009 Marriage: Children: 1. Mary Anne Morrey 2. John Morrey
Notes
General:
050811:
I do not know how this family relates, if at all, the Morrys whose names are spelled variously over the way in Dartmouth. They show up in the St. Nicholas, Shaldon register only for the births and almost immediate deaths of two children in 1823 and 1825. There is no record of their marriage there and after that they disappear from the record.
260711:
He MAY be the Captain of the Lark showing up in the Dartmouth Muster Rolls sailing from Newfoundland to Dartmouth between 21/11/1778 and 14/01/1788/89. Folio 195. And again on the LURLE from Newfoundland to Dartmouth and back on two trips between 04/03/1789 and 13/11/1789. Folio 20.
We don't have a Robert early enough to be this Captain.
Arthur Morrice
Sex: MAKA: Arthur Morris 6837, Arthur Morry 5,6838
Individual Information
Birth Date: 6 Apr 1687 - Dartmouth, Devon, England 6838,6839 Christening: 6 Apr 1687 - Dartmouth, Devon, England 4986,6838,6840 Death: Bef 28 Jul 1690 - Dartmouth, Devon, England 4989,6836 Burial: 28 Jul 1690 - Dartmouth, Devon, England 6836,6841 Cause of Death:Events
Alt. Birth: Bef 6 May 1687, Dartmouth, Devon, England.
Alt. Christening: 6 May 1687, Dartmouth, Devon, England.
Parents
Father: Living Mother:
Notes
General:
This information on Arthur Morry and the purported link to our line was provided by Enid O'Brien in her email of Sept. 08, 1999 but has not yet been cross-checked with other evidence:
"The archivist thought that this John was the son of John and brother of Arthur Morry. Arthur was baptised on May 6, 1687 in St. Clements parish in Dartmouth (but this is not definite)."
In another email from Enid O'Brien on Oct. 31, 1999 she provided further information:
"Re John Morry & Arthur Morry (? brothers) and (?) sons of John (from St. Clements parish). I do not know if they are brothers and I do not know if John (md) to Priscilla Harvey is the son of John father of Arthur. The archivist thought there might be a connection for the following reasons (a) Arthur was baptised on April 6, 1687 at St. Clements and would be of a time frame where he could be a brother of John md to Priscilla. (b) They were all from St. Clements parish, John married there, Arthur baptised there. (c) As Arthur's father's name is John and John (md to Priscilla Harvey) could possibly be named for his father. Also, Arthur is a name that is brought down in the Morry family - Matthew Morry/Ann Saunders had a son Arthur Kemp; Henry Sweetland Morry/Mary Devereaux had a son Arthur; Esther Graham Morry/Capt Henry Carew had a son Arthur who died and then named another child Arthur (my grandfather). All the evidence would point to some type of relationship but I can't really say they are brothers. This would need more confirmation."
From information now included from Aunt Jean's LDS data, it now appears that the John she referred to is actually the nephew of Arthur (if he exists, since he does not appear on Aunt Jean's records at all). The fact that his birth date and the birth date of this other John MORY are the same year makes it seem less than likely that Arthur was even in this family (unless they were twins, and there is no record of this anywhere).(18/07/00).
300510: Lanny recorded this entry at the Essex record office from microfilm:
Arthur, son of John Morry, 6 April 1687
Note the discrepancy in the month.
260416:
My feeling is that Enid's date (6 May 1687) was simply a slip of the pen whilst the date 6 April 1687 was most probably only the date of Christening, not the date of birth, though it is reported as one or the other by multiple sources.
250717:
Today, while preparing the first draft of my book on the Morry family history, I re-examined the evidence on this person being a part of the family of John Mory of Stoke Gabriel. Quite apart from the fact that he was Christened in Dartmouth at St. Saviour's (not St. Clement as Enid had thought), his father's name in that register, which I have now seen in original form on FindMyPast, is seemingly Morris, not Morry. I can see how early transcribers could have made that mistake, but the image on FindMyPast clearly shows a dot over where the letter(s) could be "is" or "y". Apart from this, the boy died and was buried on the 28th of July 1690, once again at St. Saviour's. However, and this is the clincher I think, on his burial record the surname appears as neither Morris or Mory but rather Morrice, and I think that is what it should have been all along.
On the strength of this compelling evidence, I am today severing his relationship with the Mory family of Stoke Gabriel but I will not delete him from the file in case future evidence comes to light to connect him once again.
Living
Sex: M
Spouses and Children
Children: 1. Arthur MorriceAnn Morris
Sex: FAKA: Rosella Morner 3303
Individual Information
Birth Date: Dublin, Leinster, Ireland 2752 Christening: Death: Cir 1850 - St. John's, Newfoundland 2752 Burial: Cause of Death:Events
Alt. Birth: Cir 1802, Middletown, Middlesex, Connecticut, United States of America.
Alt. Birth: Cir 1795, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
Spouses and Children
1. *William Magill 852 Marriage: Cir 1815 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada 6365 Children: 1. Capt. Charles James Magill 2. John Magill 3. Sarah Eliza Magill
Notes
General:
081025:
I had this woman's name as being Rosela Morner on the strength of an unsupported family tree on the internet which had been subsequently copied by half a dozen others so that it appeared to be legitimate.
It was only through the work of Daryl O'Hare, a descendant who contacted me on Ancestry Messaging this month that I was able to get the straight facts on the family and I will be changing what I have today, beginning with the fact that William Magill's wife's name was Ann (or Anne) Morris.
Anna Morris
Sex: F
Individual Information
Birth Date: Cir 1892 - Ireland 4281 Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:Events
Arrival: From Ireland, 1916, United States of America.
Census: 1920 US Census Household of John & Esther Harty, 2849 Mervine St., 1920, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States of America. (Household Member)
Occupation: Sewing machine operator, department store, 1920, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States of America.
Parents
Father: James Morris 2830 Mother: Mary Dolan 1769,2830Arthur Morris
Sex: MAKA: Charles Morris 149
Individual Information
Birth Date: Christening: Death: Bef 10 Aug 2011 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada 4450 Burial: Cause of Death:
Spouses and Children
1. *Anna Marguerite Elton 4096 Marriage:Esther Morris
Sex: FAKA: Essie Morris 1769
Individual Information
Birth Date: 6 Apr 1888 - Shinrone, Roscrea, Offaly, Leinster, Ireland 1769 Christening: Death: 20 Aug 1967 - Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States of America ( at age 79) 1769,2830 Burial: Cause of Death:Events
Arrival: 10 Oct 1910, New York, New York, New York, United States of America.
Census: 1920 US Census Household of John & Esther Harty, 209A Windsor Place, 1920, Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States of America. (Household Member)
Census: 1920 US Census Household of John & Esther Harty, 2849 Mervine St., 1920, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States of America. (Household Member)
Census: 1930 US Census of household of John and Esther Harty; 361 16th St., 1930, Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States of America. (Household Member)
Residence: 1930, Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States of America.
Census: Household of John Hary and Esther Harty, 1940, New York, Kings, New York, United States of America. (Household Member)
Residence: 359 16th St., 1940, Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States of America. (Occupant)
Parents
Father: James Morris 2830 Mother: Mary Dolan 1769,2830
Spouses and Children
1. *John William Harty 1769 Marriage: Children: 1. Catherine Harty 2. Mary Ann Harty 3. John Joseph Harty 4. Elizabeth Harty 5. Living
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