Ancestors of Christopher John Augustine Morry




Stephen O'Brien 
      Sex: M
AKA: Stephen Brien 1064
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: Bef 24 Dec 1887 - Cape Broyle, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada 20,1064,4082
    Christening: 24 Dec 1887 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada 1064
          Death: 6 Dec 1955 - Cape Broyle, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada 315,4082
         Burial: After 6 Dec 1955 - Cape Broyle, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada 4082
 Cause of Death: 

Events

•  Godfather: Wm. Tobin, 24 Dec 1887, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. 

•  Godmother: Elizabeth Hartery, 24 Dec 1887, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. 

•  Minister/Priest: L. K. Vereker, Holy Trinity RC Church, 24 Dec 1887, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
Parents 
         Father: Michael O'Brien 315
         Mother: Bridget Aylward 1064
Spouses and Children 
1. *Catherine Mary Dalton 315,1064 
       Marriage: 
       Children:
                1. Sarah O'Brien
                2. Alfred Joseph O'Brien
                3. Patricia O'Brien
                4. William J. O'Brien
                5. Esther Ann O'Brien
                6. Grace Marie Dalton
                7. Michael O'Brien
                8. Leonard Joseph O'Brien
                9. Ernest M. O'Brien
Living 
      Sex: M
Parents 
         Father: 
         Mother: Delma Ann O'Brien 5808
Living 
      Sex: M
Parents 
         Father: Charlie O'Brien 135,376
         Mother: Madonna Perry 135,376
Spouses and Children 
1. Living
Living 
      Sex: M
Parents 
         Father: Thomas M. O'Brien 275,809
         Mother: Living
Living 
      Sex: M
Parents 
         Father: Thomas P. O'Brien 4302
         Mother: Delia McDonnell 3022,6533
Living 
      Sex: M
Parents 
         Father: Terence O'Brien 442
         Mother: Living
Spouses and Children 
1. Living
Terence O'Brien 
      Sex: M
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: Cir 1820 - Aghnameadle, Toomevara, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland
    Christening: 
          Death: 
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:
Parents 
         Father: Morgan O'Brien Sr. 4834
         Mother:
Notes
General:
180524:

I am adding this person with hesitancy and will quickly delete him if further evidence is eventually found refuting the information I just found online which sounds very suspicious because the person who postulated this relationship seemed to be the kind of person who grasped at straws for relationships despite what were then vast distances to be travelling to find a partner. The website is owned and operated by Irish descendants in the USA and that speaks for itself to some degree. Such people are so desperate to find their roots that they don't realise the family links they are accepting would have been impossible in Ireland 150 or 200 years ago.

For what it is worth, here is what I found today on https://irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/message-board/obriens-aghnameadle

Obriens of Aghnameadle

My great grandfather Terence O'Brien and his brother and sister (Morgan and Anne) were born in Aghnameadle around 1820. All three of them married 3 Frost siblings of Drumline (Dromline) just outside of Newmarket-on-Fergus in County Clare. Terence to Maria Frost, Morgan to Catherine Frost, and Anne to Solomon Frost. Solomon and Anne settle in Rossmagher in County Clare. Terence and Morgan with their families settled in Aghnameadle for a few years. Their eldest children were born & baptized there (baptismal records have been found). After 1849 the two families moved to County Clare where they settled near Drumline (Dromline). The two areas where they settled are called: killulla and Mogaalen, two adjoining pieces of property. The rest of their children were born and baptized here. (records have been found). In 1862 the two families emigrated to North America and first ended up in Victoria B.C. Terence's wife Maria died on the ship just before landing in Victoria. After working for the Hudson Bay Company the two families moved to Seattle in an area south from the city. The area today is known as the Kent Valley. They started a small town called O'Brien. We have made contact with the descendants of Anne and Solomon Frost. We hope to make contact with descendants of any other O'Brien family members that may still be in Aghnameadle, Toomevara area. Two clues that we have are 1) A William O'Brien of Fort William was a sponsor to Thomas in 1849, the son of Morgan and Catherine O'Brien 2) A Margaret O'Brien was one of the sponsors of Teresa in 1861, the daughter of Morgan and Catherine. We wonder who this William O'Brien and Margaret O'Brien are? Are they sibilings to Anne, Morgan, and Terence? Any thoughts from people familiar with O'Briens living in this area would greatly be appreciated. Thank you.
Kathiweb
Friday 6th Jul 2018, 02:42PM

This was a message board submission and it does not appear that anyone ever responded to it.

Terence O'Brien 
      Sex: M
AKA: Terance O'Brien 7319
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: Cir 1863-1865 - Tipperary, Munster, Ireland 7320
    Christening: 
          Death: 29 Sep 1929 - Monanore, Toomevara, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland ( about age 66) 3780
         Burial: After 29 Sep 1929 - Kilkeary, Nenagh, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland 3780
 Cause of Death: 

Events

•  Alt. Birth: Event Description: Aghnameadle, Cir 1863, Toomevara, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland. 

•  Occupation: Farmer, 2 May 1905, Monanore, Toomevara, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland. 

•  Occupation: Farmer, 15 Oct 1906, Monanore, Toomevara, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland. 

•  Occupation: Farmer, 1 Jun 1908, Monanore, Toomevara, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland. 

•  Census: 1911, Monanore, Toomevara, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland. 

•  Occupation: Farmer, 2 Apr 1911, Monanore, Toomevara, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland. 

•  Residence: 1911 Census, 2 Apr 1911, Monanore, Toomevara, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland.
Parents 
         Father: William O'Brien 4834,7254
         Mother: Eliza Reidy 7255,7256
Spouses and Children 
1. *Bridget Guilfoyle 5078,5079 
       Marriage: Between Jan and Mar 1904 - Toomevara, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland 3475,5081
Marriage Notes 




101108: I thought I had found a marriage record for Terence O'Brien to Bridget Maher in 1903. Many things matched but there were many anomalies and Jamie insisted that his wife's name was not Maher. So in checking the birth records of their children it turned out that Jamie was right, her name was Bridget Guilfoyle. But there is no marriage between a Terence O'Brien and a Bridget Guilfoyle anywhere in Ireland in the correct time frame so I am now at a dead end in finding their marriage record.

170717:
Here is the real marriage record from FindMyPast, copied from FamilySearch:

Ireland Marriages 1845-1958 Transcription
First name(s) Terence
Last name O'Brien
Registration year 1904
Registered Quarter/Year Jan - Mar 1904
Registration district Roscrea
Volume 3
Page 441
MarriageFinder™
Terence O'Brien married one of these people
Bridget Gleeson, Bridget Guilfoyle, Bridget Brophy
County -
Country Ireland
Record set Irish Marriages 1845-1958
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Ireland
copyright Family Search

Note that the date and location are those of the registration, not the marriage itself.


       Children:
                1. Eliza O'Brien
                2. Johanna O'Brien
                3. Mary O'Brien
Notes
General:
201107: Jamie doesn't know Terrence's wife's name. His three daughters remained spinsters and their farm was eventually willed to Jamie's brother Tom. The farm is in Monanore, which is adjacent to Grawn on the same road. the three ladies were known as the "Ters" after their fathers name. (NB: The surname shown here, "Guilfoyle" is based on the information contained on the birth certificates of their children and seems sound.)

101108: There is some question at this point as to whether I have found the correct marriage records and hence the correct surname for Terence's wife. The civil and church records both record his name as Terence Brien, not O'Brien, and furthermore the civil record refers to his father as Terence Brien as well, listing them both as labourers. The spelling of the surname being consistently incorrect, the incorrect Chrisitan name for the father and the occupation for both showing as labourer, not farmer, leads me to believe that this is not the correct marriage record. The fact that the Christian name of the bride is correct (from known information on the 1911 Census, together with the location of marriage and their domiciles being correct, led me to ignore the erroneous information elsewhere on the records. But now Jamie says that her surname was not Maher, though she cannot recall what it was. So the whole thing is cast into doubt. The problem is that this is the ONLY marriage for a Terence O'Brien in North Tipperary at about the right time. Obviously this needs more research.

Terence O'Brien 
      Sex: M
AKA: Son Two O'Brien
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: 
    Christening: 
          Death: 
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:
Parents 
         Father: Morgan O'Brien 669
         Mother: Margaret Pound 7258
Spouses and Children 
1. Living
       Children:
                1. Living
                2. Living
                3. Living
                4. Living
                5. Morgan O'Brien
Terence O'Brien 
      Sex: M
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: 29 Oct 1846 - Toomevara, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland
    Christening: 
          Death: 
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death: 

Events

•  Sponsors: Patrick Frost and Anne O'Brien, 29 Oct 1846, Toomevara, Tipperary, Munster, Ireland.
Parents 
         Father: Morgan O'Brien 443
         Mother: Catherine Frost 443
Notes
General:
1846, Oct 29. Terence, of Morgan O'Brien & Catherine Frost Sp. Patrick Frost & Anne O'Brien. Aghnameadle 5-0

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