Ancestors of Christopher John Augustine Morry




Living 
      Sex: F
Parents 
         Father: Joachim P. Shannahan 17,1085,7452
         Mother: Rita Marie Paul 17
Spouses and Children 
1. Living
Theresa Mary Shannahan 
      Sex: F
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: 29 Apr 1931 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada 665,7985
    Christening: 
          Death: 25 Apr 2015 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ( at age 83) 7985
         Burial: 29 Apr 2015 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada 7985
 Cause of Death:
Spouses and Children 
1. *Allan Walsh 665 
       Marriage: 
       Children:
                1. Living
                2. Living
                3. Living
                4. Living
                5. Living
                6. Living
Notes
General:
270415 from David Wells:

\bTheresa Mary Walsh - Passed peacefully away surrounded by her loving family on April 25, 2015 just 4 days before her 84th birthday Theresa Walsh of Ferryland. Reunited with her loving husband Allan. Sadly left to mourn with cherished & wonderful memories are her loving children Allan (Sylvia), Jim(Dan), Bobby (with whom she resided), Robertha (Gerard), Kathy & Allanna (Nelson). Also feeling a tremendous loss are her beloved grandchildren Sheldon, Shelly, Jonathan, Trevor (whom she considered a son), Matthew, Theresa, Justin, Leah & great-grandchildren Abigail, Kennisha, Eric, & Tristin, 7 a large circle of family & friends. Resting at Fahey's Funeral Home, Fermeuse. Visitation on Monday & Tuesday April 27-28 from 2-9 p.m. Mass of Christian burial will take place from Holy Trinity Church, Ferryland on Wednesday April 29, at 10:00 a.m. Interment to follow at Holy Trinity Cemetary, Ferryland. To send a message of condolences or to sign the memorial guest book, please visit www.faheysfuneralhomes.ca <http://www.faheysfuneralhomes.ca>. Flowers gratefully accepted.

Archibald Campbell Shannan 
      Sex: M
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: 15 Aug 1803 - Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 4844
    Christening: 1 Oct 1803 - Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 4844
          Death: 
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:
Parents 
         Father: Alexander Shannon 6658
         Mother: Living
Notes
General:
300114 from Ancestry.com:

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 <http://www.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=60143&enc=1>
about Archibald Campbell Shannan
Name:Archibald Campbell Shannan
Gender:Male
Birth Date:15 Aug 1803
Baptism Date:1 Oct 1803
Baptism Place:Middle OR New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Father:Alexander Shannan
Mother:Margaret Miller
FHL Film Number:1041059ntbl Reference ID:- 2:17F81S3

I am at a loss to explain this second child named Archibald born to this couple. The first, if I am not mistaken, was still living and continued to live in this parish at least until the 1841 Census, when he was supporting a large family. I can only assume that Archibald Campbell Shannan (note the difference in spelling of the surname) was intended to be called Campbell and not Archibald.

Flora Shannan 
      Sex: F
AKA: Flora Shannon 1780,3487
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: 1792 - Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 4105
    Christening: 23 Jan 1792 - Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 4105
          Death: 16 Nov 1863 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ( at age 71) 1780
         Burial: 19 Nov 1863 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada 1780
 Cause of Death: 

Events

•  Alt. Birth: Cir 1793, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland. 

•  Residence: Rennies Mill Rd., 1863, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. According to the Anglican Cathedral parishioners list "Mrs. Clift was living with three of her sons, though which we do not know and son J. S. Clift was living next door.
Parents 
         Father: Alexander Shannon 6658
         Mother: Living
Spouses and Children 
1. *James Clift Esq. 3487 
       Marriage: 11 Mar 1813 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada 162,481,3499,3500

Marriage Events

•  Minister/Priest: David Rowland, Missionary, 11 Mar 1813, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. 

•  Witnesses: Jesse Shannan, A. Pritcher, Neil Shannan, 11 Mar 1813, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. 
Marriage Notes 




200114:

From the NGB website found today by Kevin Reddigan:

THE ROYAL GAZETTE AND NEWFOUNDLAND ADVERTISER 1810-1814
 
1813 -MARRIAGES: CLIFT/SHANNAN: This morning by Rev. Rowland. James CLIFT, Merchant, to Flora SHANNAN. (11 March)

130916:

Transcript of entry in original Cathedral register:

"201 [?] James Clift Esqr. of this Parish bachelor
and Flora Shannan Spinster                  were
Married in this Church by
this eleventh day of March in the Year One Thousand Eight Hundred
and thirteen   by me  David Rowland, Missionary
This Marriage was solemnized between US {  James Clift
                                                                         {  Flora Shannan
In the Presence of { Neil Shannan
                                { ??? Jessie Shannan



       Children:
                1. Hon. James Shannan Clift
                2. Alexander Clift
                3. Thomas Clift
                4. Jessie Clift
                5. Archibald Clift
                6. Theodore Clift
                7. Charles Neil Clift
                8. William Wallace Clift
                9. Henry Augustus Clift
Notes
General:
061207: In the Anglican cathedral records on NGB the birth record for James Shannon Clift in 1852 indicates that his father was James Shannon Clift, son of James Clift and Flora Shannan. But I take the later name to be Shannon, from which the son's middle name was taken.

300114:

From the NGB website where it was found today by Kevin Reddgan:

JOHN THE BAPTIST ANGLICAN CATHEDRAL BURIALS 1856 - 1879 District of St. John's City

Flora CLIFT St Johns 70 yrs Nov 19 1863 Nee SHANNON; died Nov 16th; married 1813 to James Clift of Smithwick near Birmingham.

THE ROYAL GAZETTE AND NEWFOUNDLAND ADVERTISER 1810-1814

1813 -MARRIAGES: CLIFT/SHANNAN: This morning by Rev. Rowland. James CLIFT, Merchant, to Flora SHANNAN. (11 March)
fact that her maiden name appears by two different spellings is entirely consistent with the uses of this name seen in Newfoundland then and in subsequent generations where it appeared as a forename or middle name for several men in the Clift and Le Messurier families. It is entirely possible that Flora and her siblings were illiterate, despite their coming from a merchant class family in Greenock, Scotland.

Jessie Shannan 
      Sex: F
AKA: Jesse Shannon 7986
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: Cir 1794 - Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 7987
    Christening: 
          Death: 
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:
Parents 
         Father: Alexander Shannon 6658
         Mother: Living
Spouses and Children 
1. *Charles Livingston 481 
       Marriage: 6 Jan 1814 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada 481,6252

Marriage Events

•  Witnesses: John Furey, Robert Carter, 6 Jan 1814, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. 

•  Minister/Priest: Rev. David Rowland, 6 Jun 1814, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. 
Marriage Notes 




300114 found on the NGB website by Kevin Reddigan:

THE ROYAL GAZETTE AND NEWFOUNDLAND ADVERTISER 1810-1814
 
1814 - MARRIAGES LIVINGSTON/SHANNON: By Rev. Rowland. Charles LIVINGSTON, Merchant, to JESSE, 2nd daughter of Alexander SHANNON, Esq., merchant, Greenock. (6 Jan.)



       Children:
                1. Charles Livingston
                2. Jane S. Livingston
Notes
General:
150112: I have made this connection because Jessie Shannan appears as a witness on the marriage of Flora Shannan to James Clift, Esq. Knowing how all these merchant class families chose to intermarry it seems most likely that these are sisters and that Charles is the brother of Sydney Spear Livingstone who married Peter Weston Carter Esq., Note that one of the many Robert Carter's was also a witness to this marriage.


300114:

The spelling of this surname varies and consequently descendants who borrowed it for a forename or middle name also seem to have used one of two spellings: Shannon or Shannan. The former seems to be the original spelling in Scotland.

Neil Shannan 
      Sex: M
AKA: Neil Shannon
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: 23 Aug 1787 - Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 7988
    Christening: 5 Sep 1787 - Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 7988,7989,7990
          Death: 25 Jun 1818 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ( at age 30) 6659
         Burial: After 25 Jun 1818 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada 6659
 Cause of Death: 

Events

•  Alt. Birth: Cir 1788, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland. 

•  Occupation: Merchant, Bef 25 Jun 1818, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
Parents 
         Father: Alexander Shannon 6658
         Mother: Living
Notes
General:
300114:

Entries on the NGB website pertaining to Neil Shannon found by Kevin Reddigan:

Ferryland District Surrogate Court Records (ca 1800 - 1820's) Part-3

November 17, 1817 Shannan, Neil Charged this person with assault: Codner, Thomas


Ferryland Anglican Cemetery, Forge Hill/Fox Hill:

Shannon
Neil Shannon, a native of Greenock Scotland, late merchant of this place, died 25 June 1818 age 32 years


From Ancestry.com:

Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 <http://www.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=60143&enc=1>
about Neil Shannan
Name:Neil Shannan
Gender:Male
Birth Date:23 Aug 1787
Baptism Date:5 Sep 1787
Baptism Place:West OR Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Father:Alexander Shannan
Mother:Margaret Miller
FHL Film Number:1041062
Reference ID:- 2:17KCMM0

Note the difference in the spelling of the surname in the birth/baptism versus the later records. This is the same spelling used by Flora and Archibald Campbell Shannan. It seems this family vacillated between the two spellings in much the same way that they Morrys/Moreys of Ferryland did at the same time.

220614:

His is one of the few stones still found in the old Anglican Cemetery on the north side in Ferryland above the house of Ronnie Hynes. This cemetery is sometime referred to as the Forge Hill cemetery though many people call this area Fox Hill.

The Stonepics Images for this stone may be the best we will ever have.

As I read it from these various photos taken on August 9, 2003 the stone reads in full:
SACRED
to the Memory of
Neil Shannan
of
GREENOCK
and Late Merchant of this Place
Who Departed this Life June 25
1818
In the XXXII Year of His Age

The final digit on 25 is worn away and could be 23 but I believe there are paper records of his death that confirm the 25 to be correct.

290523:
The stone is still present and somewhat legible. Both I and Kevin Reddigan found and photographed it in 2022.

Agnes Shannon 
      Sex: F
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: Cir 1830 - Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 5681
    Christening: 
          Death: 
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death: 

Events

•  Census: Rue End Street, East Greenock, 1841, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland. 

•  Census: Rue End Street, East Greenock, 1841, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland.  (Household Member) 

•  Census: Fox Street, Greenock West, 1861, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland.
Parents 
         Father: Archibald Shannon
         Mother: Margaret Wilson 5681,6465
        Marriage Did Not Marry
Notes
General:
300114:

She appears to be single and living with her mother in 1861. I assume she did not marry.

Alexander Shannon 
      Sex: M
AKA: Alexander Shannan 5
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: 
    Christening: 
          Death: Bef 1 Oct 1841 - Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 7991
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death: 

Events

•  Occupation: Merchant, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland.
Spouses and Children 
1. Living
       Children:
                1. Neil Shannan
                2. Archibald Shannon
                3. Flora Shannan
                4. Jessie Shannan
                5. Margaret Shannon
                6. Betsy Shannon
                7. Archibald Campbell Shannan
                8. Isabella Shannon
Notes
General:
300114:

The evidence of this person's existence and the spelling of his surname requires work. He is mentioned as the father of the bride in a marriage between Jesse Shannon and Charles Livingstone (information uncovered by Kevin Eeddigan on NGB website).

THE ROYAL GAZETTE AND NEWFOUNDLAND ADVERTISER 1810-1814

1813 -MARRIAGES: CLIFT/SHANNAN: This morning by Rev. Rowland. James CLIFT, Merchant, to Flora SHANNAN. (11 March)

1814 - MARRIAGES LIVINGSTON/SHANNON: By Rev. Rowland. Charles LIVINGSTON, Merchant, to JESSE, 2nd daughter of Alexander SHANNON, Esq., merchant, Greenock. (6 Jan.)

As can be seen from the above entries, there was much confusion over the spelling of this surname. Flora and Jesse were sisters yet their surnames were spelled two different ways a year apart by the same clergyman. This problem carried on through the generations as the name became co-opted as a forename and middle name for sons in the Clift family in particular but also the Le Messurier family.

It is difficult to know now whether these people really did use different spellings of their names, as was the case for the Morey/Morry family of Ferryland. To be on the safe side, I am using the name that appears most commonly in records and providing the alternate spelling as an alternate name.

There is also some doubt as to the real forename of the father of these two brides. His name is only mentioned in account of a wedding as Alexander but a check in Greenock records at the time seems to suggest his name may have been Archibald. This requires further research.

Archibald Shannon 
      Sex: M
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: Bef 10 Nov 1826 - Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 4844
    Christening: 10 Nov 1826 - Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 4844
          Death: Bef Jan 1828 - Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 4844
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death: 

Events

•  Census: Rue End Street, East Greenock, 1841, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland.  (Household Member)
Parents 
         Father: Archibald Shannon
         Mother: Margaret Wilson 5681,6465
        Marriage Did Not Marry
Notes
General:
300114 from Ancestry.com:

Event Description: West or Old parish
Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 <http://www.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=60143&enc=1>
about Archibald Shannon
Name:Archibald Shannon
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:10 Nov 1826
Baptism Place:West OR Old Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland Father:Archibald Shannon
Mother:Margaret Wilson
FHL Film Number:1041063

This is the first of two children of this couple named Archibald. Clearly the first died either at birth or shortly afterwards.

Archibald Shannon 
      Sex: M
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: 1789-1791 - Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 5681,7992
    Christening: 
          Death: Bef 1861 - Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 7993
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death: 

Events

•  Occupation: Ship Master, 1834, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland. 
Scotland, Parish Births & Baptisms 1564-1929 Transcription
Print
First name(s) Neil
Last name Shannon
Birth year 1834
Birth date 01 Mar 1834
Baptism year 1834
Baptism date 26 Mar 1834
Place Greenock
County Renfrewshire
Country Scotland
Mother's first name(s) Neil
Mother's last name Thomson
Father's first name(s) Archibald
Father's last name Shannon
Father Occupation Shipmaster
Page 537
Archive Ref OPR 564-3/5
Year Range 1820-1836
Item 4
Record set Scotland, Parish Births & Baptisms 1564-1929
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from United Kingdom, Scotland

© Findmypast. 

•  Census: Rue End Street, East Greenock, 1841, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland. Archibald Shannon in 1841
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Rue End Street, Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Household members (11 people)
First name(s)Last nameSexAgeBirth yearBirth place
ArchibaldShannonMale501791Scotland
MargaretShannonFemale381803Scotland
ArchibaldShannonMale131828Scotland
AgnesShannonFemale111830Scotland
JohnShannonMale91832Scotland
NeilShannonMale71834Scotland
MaryShannonFemale41837Renfrewshire, Scotland
MargaretShannonFemale21839Renfrewshire, Scotland
WorthyMcAlisterFemale861755Scotland
ElizaHamiltonFemale361805Scotland
AgnesMcTaggartFemale201821Scotland
Transcript of Archibald's record
First name(s) Archibald
Registration district -
Last name Shannon
Family member first name(s) Margaret, Neil, Archibald, Mary, Eliza, Worthy, Margaret, John, Agnes
Sex Male
Family member last name Shannon, Hamilton, McAlister, McTaggart
Age 50
Archive reference -
Birth year 1791
Piece number -
Birth county -
Book number -
Birth county as transcribed Scotland
Folio number -
Birth place other Scotland
Page number -
Occupation Collector of harbour dues
Schedule 12
Full address Rue End Street, Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Record set 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Street Rue End Street
Category Census, Land & Substitutes
Parish or township Greenock
Subcategory Census
County Renfrewshire
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland
Country Scotland
 

© FindMyPast. 

•  Occupation: Collector of Harbour Dues, 1841-1851, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland. 

•  Census: Fox St., West Greenock, 1851, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland.
Parents 
         Father: Alexander Shannon 6658
         Mother: Living
Spouses and Children 
1. *Margaret Wilson 5681,6465 
       Marriage: Cir 1825 - Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 5681
       Children:
                1. Archibald Shannon
                2. Archibald Shannon
                3. Agnes Shannon
                4. John Shannon
                5. Neil Shannon
                6. Mary Shannon
                7. Margaret Shannon
                8. Charles Shannon
                9. Jessie Shannon
                10. Elizabeth Shannon
Notes
General:
300114:
From Ancestry.com

1841 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=1004&enc=1>
about Archd Shannon
Name:Archd Shannon
Age:50
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1791
Gender:Male
Where born:Scotland
Civil Parish:Greenock East
County:Renfrewshire
Address:Rue End Street
Occupation:Collector Of Harbour Dues
Parish Number:564
Household Members: Name Age
Archd Shannon 50
Margart Shannon 38
Archd Shannon13
Agnes Shannon 11
John Shannon 9
Neil Shannon 7
Mary Shannon 4
Margaret Shannon 2
Worthy Mcalister 86
Elisa Hamilton 36
Agnes McFaggart 20

I am making the leap that this is a sibling of Flora and Jesse and the others I have added for various suppositional reasons. In his case my guess is based on three things:
1. his surname is not common
2. the location is right
3. his age is right
4. he has a son named Neil Shannon, the same as the man who came to Newfoundland and died there, who I am assuming was his brother.

300114:

I am assuming that Worthy McAllister, who is living in the household of Archibald Shannon at the time of the 1841 Census, is his mother-in-law, meaning that his wife Margaret's maiden name would have been McAllister. Purely an assumption at this time.

Elisa Hamilton may be his sister by her married name if widowed, his sister-in-law by her married name if widowed or just a servant or visitor. In any event this is too unclear to add her as a family member.

300114:

The 1851 Census was made difficult to find on Ancestry because Archibald's first name was abbreviated to Arch'd and his surname was misspelled Shanna, though the names of several children were spelled correctly:

1851 Scotland Census <http://www.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=1076&enc=1>
about Archd Shanna
Name:Archd Shanna
Age:62
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1789
Relationship:Head
Spouse's Name:Margaret Shanna
Gender:Male
Where born:Arras, butesh
Parish Number:564
Civil Parish:Greenock West
Town:Greenock
County:Renfrewshire
Address:Fox Street
Occupation:Collector Of Hacboue Day
ED:121
Page:9 (click to see others on page)
Household Schedule Number:19
Line:1
Roll:CSSCT1851_120
Household Members: Name Age
Archd Shanna 62
Margaret Shanna 49
Richd Shannon 23
Mary Shannon 14
Charles Shannon 9
Jessie Shannon 7
Elizabeth Shannon 5
Helen Swestin 28
Elizabeth Mckinlay 20

We can assume from the above that all the Shannons are one family and the other two women are domestics. This begs the question, where are the other children listed on the 1841 Census:

Archd Shannon13
Agnes Shannon 11
John Shannon 9
Neil Shannon 7
Margaret Shannon 2

Some may have died and some may have been at school or working. But I am inclined to believe that the eldest of these, Arch'd is actually the Rich'd that the transcriber recorded instead because he would be age 23 in 1851.

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