Ancestors of Christopher John Augustine Morry

Matthew Mory

Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: 16 Jan 1696/97 - Broadwinsor, Dorset, England Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Parents

Father: Richard Mory Mother:

Notes
General:

This information from International Genealogical Index Batch 8710631,Sheet 28, and Film # 457362 and 452045, Page # 0145. Not clear if this is an ancestor or relative of Morry line.

Moses Mory

Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1600 - Devonshire, England ¹³ Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Spouses and Children

Children: 1. William Mory 2. Elizabeth Mory

Notes
General:

160321:

This is a new possible father for the Elizabeth Mory and William Mory who are found being married on the same page in the Stoke Gabriel Register. FindMyPast queried whether or not this was the same person when I entered the information on her marriage to Phillip Hooper. I see no reason to believe that it is -- or that it is not!

So I am holding onto this information for now to see if it bears fruit.

Philippa Mory

Sex: F
AKA: Phillip Mory ⁷¹³², Phillipa Pook ¹¹⁵⁵ ^,7133
Individual Information

Birth Date: Bef 20 Mar 1654/55 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁴⁹⁶ ^,556 ^,1203 Christening: 20 Mar 1654/55 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁴⁹⁶ ^,556 ^,1203 ^,3251 ^,7134 Death: Bef 12 May 1730 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ³⁵⁷ Burial: 12 May 1730 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ³⁵⁷ ^,1204 ^,7135 Cause of Death:
Events
• Alt. Christening: 15 Mar 1653/54, Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England.

Parents

Father: William Mory ⁷⁸ ^,109 ^,454 ^,556 ^,1203 ^,4705 ^,4706 ^,4707 ^,4708 ^,4709 ^,4710 ^,4711 Mother: Jennet Full ¹⁰⁹ ^,454 ^,556 ^,1203

Spouses and Children

1. *William Peek ³⁵⁷ Marriage: 8 Oct 1677 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁵⁵⁵ ^,1202
Marriage Events
• Alt. Marriage: 5 Oct 1677, Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England. Children: 1. William Pike Sr. 2. Unk Peeke 3. Jane Peck

Notes
General:

In email 366 from Geoffrey Williams 10/08/00 he notes:

"I do not have a Christening for Philipa, but here is a marriage in Stoke Gabriel:

1677PhilipaMORYFM08 Oct 1677WilliamPIKEStoke Gabriel District of South HamsDEVENGParish RecordsFeral ENGMorey Forum"

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However, in email 377 "Cliff" pointed out to him that he did have a christening for Phillipa:

"1654PhillipaMORYFCMar 1654WilliamMORYJennetFULLStoke Gab DEVENGLDSCliff22Feral ENGMorey Foru

That took some finding, mate! Note the truncated data. And is the date correct? There is no day? I guessed one and merged data. The clan is now KLN English Maunder, but I have left OCC = KLN Gabriel just in case:

1654PhilipaMORYFC15 Mar 1654WilliamMORYJanetFULLWilliamPIKE Stoke GabrielDistrict of South HamsDEVENGEmail 366 02KLN Gabriel KLN English MaunderMorey Forum"

In email 367 clarification on date of birth is added:

"Hi Geoffrey,

In your 366 02 you mentioned that you did not have the christening of Phillipa - at Stoke Gabriel - may I draw your attention to Cliff22.

Cheers Cliff

Morey 367 Email 05 Reply

Dear Cliff,

1654PhillipaMORYFCMar 1654WilliamMORYJennetFULLStoke GabDEVENGLDSCliff22Feral ENGMorey Foru

That took some finding, mate! Note the truncated data. And is the date correct? There is no day? I guessed one and merged data. The clan is now KLN English Maunder, but I have left OCC = KLN Gabriel just in case:

1654PhilipaMORYFC15 Mar 1654WilliamMORYJanetFULLWilliamPIKE Stoke GabrielDistrict of South HamsDEVENGEmail 366 02KLN GabrielKLN English MaunderMorey Forum"

020204:

I had thought that there was no record of the birth and christening of Phillipa when I came upon this in the microfilm on loan at the FHC in Moncton:

"1654 Mar 20 Phillip [crossed out and replaced with] Phillippa d. Will B. Mory & Jennet w."

The Will B. is curious but I am sure it is not Willm, as is shown elsewhere.

I am treating this as the correct date of birth and not the estimate used by Geoffrey Williams.

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050414 from the Freereg.org.uk website:

We must ignore the misspelling of the surname in the burial register entry below. There was no such family in the parish by that name and it was clearly intended to be Pike. The date at first created a bit of a problem. I had just entered a date of burial for husband William that followed this date and this entry says she was a widow at the time of her burial. I was suspicious that the burial register for William that I found was in fact that of a son of the same name whose Christenting record did not appear in the Stoke Gabriel register. That suspicion proved true when I found another burial record for a William "Peek" in 1716 which listed him as "Senr", proving the existence of a son of the same name.

I theorise that all the other Pikes in the register seem to have been residents of Cornworthy and the christenings may be in a church nearer to where they lived.

County Devon
Place Stoke Gabriel
Church Stoke Gabriel
RegisterNumber
BurialDate 12 May 1730
Forename Philippa
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname POOK
Age
Abode
Notes Widdow
FileNumber 21728

190816:
Once again we see clearly demonstrated that the film of the St. Gabriel register made by the LDS in the 1970s was taken from a copy or transcript of the register made years later which contained many transcription errors and omissions. The Find My Past images were made from the true register and are the only primary source for this parish and should be used whereever possible. Here is her actual christening record as found on Find My Past by Bill Full:
The register entry reads: "[1655] March. 20 Philippa daughter of Will. Mory & Jennet his wife".

Here is her baptism record as transcribed on Find My Past, courtesy Bill Full:
Devon Baptisms Transcription
First name(s) Philippa
Last name Nloxy (Actual: Moxy or Mory)
Birth year -
Baptism year 1654
Baptism date 20 Mar 1654
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Stoke Gabriel
Father's first name(s) Will
Mother's first name(s) Jennet
County Devon
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Archive reference 1981A/PR/1/2

Richard Mory

Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Spouses and Children

Children: 1. Matthew Mory

Notes
General:

This information from International Genealogical Index Batch 8710631,Sheet 28, and Film # 457362 and 452045, Page # 0145. Not clear if this is an ancestor or relative of Morry line.

Susanna Mory

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: 1683 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England Christening: 1683 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England Death: Bef 2 Sep 1755 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ³⁵⁷ Burial: 2 Sep 1755 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ³⁵⁷ Cause of Death:

Parents

Father: John Mory ⁴⁹⁴ ^,496 Mother: Susanna ⁷⁸ ^,454 ^,1202 ^,1203

Spouses and Children

1. *Robert Hawke ¹⁰⁹ ^,357 Marriage: 13 Aug 1706 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England Marriage Notes

040414:

Note that Robert and Susanna were 1st cousins.
Children: 1. Elizabeth Hawk 2. Richard Hawk

Notes
General:

Sept. 2001: Viewed record of burial in Stoke Gabriel Parish records on microfilm at Maritime History Archive, St. John's, Newfoundland: Feb. 23, 1736 Susanna Morey wid.

I believe this to be our Susanna (though this record of death does not appear in LDS records or Aunt Jean's) and thus her husband died before 1736.

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Also, on checking the microfilm again in January 2004 at FHC in Moncton, there is no record of her birth. I'm not sure where Aunt Jean found that.

040414:

Note that Robert and Susanna were 1st cousins.

050414:

I have found the true burial record of Susanna. It goes by her married name as one would expect. Therefore the earlier burial record I found on the microfilm must pertain to another Susanna, one who was married to a Morey, not a Morey herself. In fact it was that of the wife of John Mory. So I have deleted from this record.

Here is this Susanna's burial record:

County Devon
Place Stoke Gabriel
Church Stoke Gabriel
RegisterNumber
BurialDate 02 Sep 1755
Forename Susanna
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname HOKE
Age
Abode
Notes Widdow
FileNumber 21728

Thomas Mory

Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: Bef 4 Mar 1667/68 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁴⁹⁴ ^,496 ^,1203 Christening: 4 Mar 1667/68 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁴⁹⁴ ^,496 ^,1203 ^,3251 ^,7137 Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Parents

Father: William Mory ⁷⁸ ^,109 ^,454 ^,556 ^,1203 ^,4705 ^,4706 ^,4707 ^,4708 ^,4709 ^,4710 ^,4711 Mother: Jennet Full ¹⁰⁹ ^,454 ^,556 ^,1203

Spouses and Children

1. *Elizabeth Taylor ⁴⁹⁷ Marriage: 7 Oct 1688 - Exeter, Devon, England ⁴⁹⁷ ^,555 Marriage Notes

Heavitree District
Children: 1. Mary Mory 2. Gabriel Morey

Notes
General:

Email 366 from Geoffrey Williams 10/08/00:

"And Thomas:

1667ThomasMORYMC04 Mar 1667WilliamMORYJanetFULLStoke GabrielDistrict of South HamsDEVENGParish RecordsKLN Janet Full Morey Forum"

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Email 373 from Geoffrey Williams 02/09/00:

"1688ThomasMOREYMM07 Oct 1688WilliamMORYJanetFULLElizabeth TAYLORHeavitreeDistrict of ExeterDEVENGParish RecordsKLN Gabriel KLN English MaunderMorey Forum

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Record transcribed from microfilm on loan from LDC at Family History Centre in Moncton, January 2004. All spelling is precisely as seen, however I believe that the microfilm was in fact of a transcription of the Church records, not the original church records themselves and therefore it is possible that errors were introduced by the person who performed the original transcription:

"1667 Mar. 4 Thomas fil Will Mory & Jennetta Ux."

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040414 from FreeReg.org.uk:

County Devon
Place Stoke Gabriel
Church Stoke Gabriel
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 04 Mar 1667/68
Forename Thomas
Sex M
FatherForename Will
MotherForename Jennettae
FatherSurname MORY
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 21729

190816:
On this one at least the LDS image of the later copy of the register is in accord with the Find My Past image of the original register: The register reads: "[1667] March. 4. Thomas fil. Willm. Mory & Jennetta ux."

Here is his baptism record as transcribed on Find My Past, courtesy Bill Full:
Devon Baptisms Transcription
First name(s) Thomas
Last name Moxy
Birth year -
Baptism year 1667
Baptism date 04 Mar 1667
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Stoke Gabriel
Father's first name(s) Willi
Mother's first name(s) Jennetta
County Devon
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Archive reference 1981A/PR/1/2

220816:
Bill Full believes that Thomas Mory may have been buried in Tiverton, as unlikely as that place would be since it is so far inland. But the argument made is that he was married in Exeter, which is halfway between Stoke Gabriel and Tiverton, so it sort of make sense. All the register shows is the year (1728) his name (Thomas Morey) and the month and day (July 9). It is not much to go on. If a burial for his wife (Elizabeth Taylor) under the name Morey were to be found there I would find it easier to accept.

William Mory

Sex: M
AKA: Willm Moore ⁷¹³⁸, Willm Morey ⁷¹³⁹, Will Mory ⁷¹⁴⁰, Willm Mory ⁷¹⁴¹
Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1624 - Devonshire, England ⁷⁸ ^,454 ^,556 ^,1203 Christening: Cir 1624 - Devonshire, England ⁵⁵⁶ ^,1203 Death: Bef 20 Nov 1692 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁷⁸ Burial: 20 Nov 1692 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁴⁵⁴ ^,555 ^,556 ^,1203 ^,7142 Cause of Death:
Events
• Alt. Birth: 1631, Totnes, Devon, England.

Parents

Father: Moses Mory ⁷¹¹⁹ Mother:

Spouses and Children

1. *Jennet Full ¹⁰⁹ ^,454 ^,556 ^,1203 Marriage: 23 Sep 1650 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁷⁸ ^,454 ^,497 ^,1203 ^,1484 ^,3714 ^,3715 Marriage Notes

From Geoffrey Williams' email 360, 10/08/00:

"1650WilliamMORYMM23 Sep 1650KLN Janet FullJanetFULLStoke GabrielDistrict of South HamsDEVENGParish RecordsKLN Janet Full Morey Forum"

051219 from FindMyPast:

Record Transcription:
Devon Marriages And Banns
First name(s)William
Last nameMory
Age-
Birth year-
Marriage year1650
Marriage date23 Sep 1650
PlaceStoke Gabriel
Spouse's first name(s)Jennet
Spouse's last nameFill
Spouse age-
CountyDevon
DenominationAnglican
CountryEngland
ArchiveSouth West Heritage Trust
Archive reference1981A/PR/1/2
Record setDevon Marriages And Banns
CategoryBirth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
SubcategoryParish Marriages
Collections fromEngland, Great Britain
© Findmypast
Children: 1. Ellenor Morey 2. Alice Morey 3. Elizabeth Mory 4. Philippa Mory 5. Marie Mory 6. Juditha Mory 7. William Mory 8. Mary Mory 9. John Mory 10. Joane Mory 11. Thomas Mory 12. Jeane Mory

Notes
General:

This is the earliest Aunt Jean Funkhouser took her Morry family line. Everything that comes earlier is based upon speculation between Geoffrey Williams and I.

According to Geoffrey Williams in his email 366 dated 10/08/00 in referring to the likely parents of John Mory:

"The only possible parents for KLN Gabriel are the KLN Janet Full Moreys who married 23 Sep 1650 Stoke Gabriel, District of South Hams. They are clanned 25 years before the marriage:

1625WilliamMORYMKLNc 1625KLN Janet FullJanetFULLStoke GabrielDistrict of South HamsDEVENGEmail 350 00KLN Janet Full Morey Forum"

060803: There were some discrepancies between my list of children in this family and the list attributed by David Tolcher, the Online Parish Clerk for Stoke Gabriel upon first examination:

Alice Morey 20 Apr 1651 Wm Morey Jennet

Elizabeth Mory 1 May 1653 Wm Mory Jennet

Mary Mory 27 Dec 1660 Wm Mory Jennet

John Mory 1 Jan 1662 Wm Mory Jennet

Joane Mory 23 Aug 1664 Wm Mory Jennet

Thomas Mory 4 Mar 1667 Wm Mory Jennet

I responded: I have four more children in this family, all evidently based on Stoke Gabriel christening records: Philpa , March 20, 1653/54; Marie Feb.2 1655/56; and Juditha, born in 1658, and a final child, Jeane born in 1669. I have two independent researchers who showed the same additional names. Are none of these in the church records?

And David wrote back: No records in parish but BTs provide evidence of Phillipa and Marie (or Mary) with dates. No evidence for the other two, but I have a later marriage for Judith so simply the fact she is not recorded is no proof she wasn't born then. (see later notes on reliability of 17th century PRs)

Based on this exchange I am keeping the additional children but note here that they are unproven.

020204: I checked these records on microfilm very carefully at the FHC in Moncton. The microfilm is extremely bad, especially the part that relates to the 1500s and early 1600s. But I am sure that there is absolutely no evidence of birth records for Philippa Mory (1654) , Juditha Mory (1658) and Jeane Mory (1669). I have no idea where Aunt Jean and others found this information. One possibility relates to the fact that the Parish Records on microfilm are not a direct print of the original Parish Records. The microfilm was made from what appears to be a very old, but not original version. In other words a manual, hand-written transcript made many years ago. It is not dated, but it does indicate that it was presented to the Devon and Cornwall Record Society for the use of their members by an individual whose name is illegible on the microfilm. Perhaps the Society can clear up this mystery. It was noted that it was "Deposited at the Exeter City Library" so they too should know how and when and by whom it was deposited. A note added in hand later indicates that when checked against the original a number of records were found to have been omitted. This could be what happened in the case of the missing Morys. Other researchers who found these names may well have picked them off the original Parish Records books.

310314:
Today I found a Morey family tree on Ancestry that provides a plausible alternative as the line from whence William Mory descended since this new line is solidly based in the Bovey Tracey area not far from Stoke Gabriel. I am attaching the abbreviated family tree in the Media folder for William for future reference.

It is not only the proximity but the use of common Christian names in the two families. I am strongly inclined to believe that we made a mistake in accepting Henry as the father of William. But to prove this theory it would be necessary to find a son of the Bovey Tracey family for whom no death information exists and who effecively disappeared from that community without having a family of his own there. That son would be the father of William in Stoke Gabriel. Or else, William himself would have to be an unknown son of one of the Bovey Tracey man who left home on his own and settled in Stoke Gabriel. The family tree copied over from Belinda Morey on Ancestry is only a bare skeleton following a single line down to her. That is, only one son in each generation is followed. So there is ample room for other sons to have existed who may have left Bovey Tracey to seek their fortune. This may be the man:

Name: William Mawry
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 20 Feb 1621/22
Baptism Place: Moreton Hampstead,Devon,England
Father: John Mawry <http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&ti=0&r=an&db=FS1EnglandBirthsandChristenings&indiv=try&h=167862079>
FHL Film Number: 916868, 916869

or this, from Geoffrey William's database:

1630 William Mourie M C 02 Apr 1630 Christopher Mourie Bovey Tracey District of Teignbridge DEV ENG Parish Records Chris Ill s/o Joan KLN Friswide Wallen Morey Forum

What this entry means is that Christopher Mourie, who was an illegitimate son by Joan Mawrye (daughter of Robert Mawrye and Friswide Wallen), had a son whom he named William and Christened on 02 April 1630 in Bovey Tracey. There is no wife's name for Christopher in Geoffrey's database suggesting that William was also illegitimate.

This certainly fits our man -- born about the right time, in the neighbourhood of Stoke Gabriel, yet far enough away that he could escape whatever condemnation would attach to an illegitimate son in those days.

Christopher had other children also with no mention of a mother. They were:
Honor 9 Jan 1619
Wilmot 26 May 1622
Maria 16 May 1624
Thomas 14 June 1627
John 9 June 1633

If these children were all illegitimate and of the same mother, there must have been a reason why the minister would not marry them. Possibly they were first cousins.

It now appears that this theory too was wrong. On Ancestry's entry for the christening of this William they show that he died in infancy.

However, there is another man in Moretonhampstead having children at this time too, also without any indication of a wife. I now realise that was simply the way that the entries appeared in the church register. This man is John, variously seen as Mawry, Mawrye, Maury, Maurye, He had seven children christened between 1622 and 1634. The first of these, christened on 20 Feb 1621/22, was named William (see record above) and there is no record of his death or anything else about him in Moretonhampstead after this. Could this be our man?

020914:
In June when I was in Newfoundland I did an exhaustive search on the microfilms of parishes surrounding Stoke Gabriel at the Maritime History Archive for anyone fitting the description of William Mory, husband of Jennett Full, and came up empty. I am convinced that the parents, grandparents and great grandparents that Geoffrey had proposed for William are not valid, but I cannot provide a substantiated alternative for his parentage at this time and may never be able to do so. But because of my serious doubts, I am severing the relationship between William and these three previous generations today but will retain all the data on the individuals cut loose for now.

260816:
I've been working for about a week now with Bill Full to try and come to an agreed family tree shared by us. In the process we have debated the parentage and likely birth location on my present earliest known ancestor on the Morry side, William Mory. Bill downloaded images of the Moretonhamstead baptismal record of William Mawry (c 20 Feb. 1621-22) and it turns out that this image is of another register, not the same as that filmed by the LDS. I have come to the conclusion that the LDS was not given access to the original C of E registers in England but rather filmed the Bishop's Transcripts, which contained many transcription errors and omissions. Regardless, the baptism record is unfortunately later followed by a marriage record, records of the christening of several children born to a William Mawry (various spellings of the surname) and also two different burial records for a man of this name. So it seems unlikely that this is my early ancestor who moved to Stoke Gabriel. I have included my research notes from 2014 in the Media Gallery.

190218:

Today I am removing Stoke Gabriel as a "placeholder" formerly used for the place of birth and christenting of William Mory because we actually know for certain that he was neither born nor christened there. Though we do not know where he was born and christened, it is a pretty good educated guess that it was in Devon somewhere so I am leaving that as the location for now.

Also, today I found two new hints from FindMyPast for possible baptism records for this William, both in Plymouth, one for a William Marey, as they read it but it could easily be Morey, in Plympton St. Mary on 10 Oct. 1625, and the other for a William Moore in St. Andrew on 21 mar 1623. Both are in the right ballpark in terms of timing. But I am reluctant to follow the possibility that the name was then Moore as it opens up a hornets nest of possibilities for the earlier generations of the family since the name Moore is far too common to follow up. If either of these is to be taken seriously, I think it should be the Marey/Morey one. But there too it would be necessary to carry out follow up research, as I have done in the past with all the other possible birth/baptism records to ensure that this William did not die or was married in Plymouth, in which case he is not our man.

Well that was a shortlived possibility! Just found a burial record for this boy in the Plympton register on 29 November 1625 so he barely last a month.

William Mory

Sex: M
AKA: William Moury ³⁵⁷
Individual Information

Birth Date: Bef 9 Apr 1693 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁴⁹⁴ ^,496 Christening: 9 Apr 1693 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁴⁹⁴ ^,496 Death: Bef 25 Feb 1729/30 - Dartmouth, Devon, England ¹²⁰⁴ Burial: 25 Feb 1729/30 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ¹²⁰⁴ Cause of Death:
Events
• Probate: 1718, Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England.
• Alt. Death: Bef 31 Aug 1718, Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England.
• Alt. Burial: 31 Aug 1718, Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England.

Parents

Father: John Mory ⁴⁹⁴ ^,496 Mother: Susanna ⁷⁸ ^,454 ^,1202 ^,1203

Spouses and Children

1. *Joan Fogwell ⁴⁹⁷ Marriage: 6 Oct 1717 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁴⁹⁷

Notes
General:

Stoke Gabriel Church records of burials, viewed at Maritime History Archives on August 29, 2001, show: "Aug. 31, 1718 William Moary." (Could be Morry as the microfilm blurs the writing).

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Record transcribed from microfilm on loan from LDC at Family History Centre in Moncton, January 2004. All spelling is precisely as seen, however I believe that the microfilm was in fact of a transcription of the Church records, not the original church records themselves and therefore it is possible that errors were introduced by the person who performed the original transcription:

"1693 Ap. 9 Wm s. John & Susannah Mory"

040414 from FreeReg.org.uk:

County Devon
Place Stoke Gabriel
Church Stoke Gabriel
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 09 Apr 1693
Forename Wm
Sex M
FatherForename John
MotherForename Susanna
FatherSurname MORY
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 21729

And here is his burial record, despite difference in spelling of surname. Since there was no next of kin we would be forgiven for assuming he never married. Yet we have evidence that he did indeed marry only the year before he died. Geoffrey William's database is the source of that information and it may have in fact pertained to a different man since it is not found elsewhere in the databases I have seen.

County Devon
Place Stoke Gabriel
Church Stoke Gabriel
RegisterNumber
BurialDate 31 Aug 1718
Forename William
Relationship Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname MOURY
Age
Abode
Notes
FileNumber 21728

220816:
I have discovered that much of the information above is incorrect and pertains to his uncle William who was the one buried in Stoke Gabriel on 31 Aug 1718. This William, son of John, was buried there too, even though he was then resident in Dartmouth, but his burial occurred much later on February 25 1729/30. Hence the Probate information that was previously attached here because it was dated 1718 actually was associated with the other William and I am moving it today.

Here is the correct burial information:
Courtesy of Bill Full, from the Find My Past website. The record reads: "[1729] [Feb] 25 William Son of John Moary of Dartmouth was buried here." The year and month are carried down from above records. Note that he was actually from Dartmouth at this stage but chose to be buried in his birth place.

William Mory

Sex: M
AKA: William Morey ³⁵⁷ ^,7143 ^,7144
Individual Information

Birth Date: Bef 13 Jan 1659/60 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ³⁵⁷ ^,7145 ^,7146 Christening: 13 Jan 1659/60 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁷¹⁴⁶ Death: Bef 31 Aug 1718 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England Burial: 31 Aug 1718 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ⁵⁵⁵ ^,1204 Cause of Death:
Events
• Alt. Christening: 13 Jan 1660/61, Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England. 170816:
The reading I take from the original register is:
""Jan. 13 [1860] (and since this January is at the end of the old calendar it is 1861 by our calendar) William filius (Latin for son) William Morey (am I really seeing an e in there?) X Jennetta Mory."

190816:
Image of original register courtesy Bill Full, From the Find My Past website. Note that their films are of the original parish register whilst the LDS film is of a later copy which contains errors and omissions.
• Probate: No known copy of will still in existence., 1718, Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England.

Parents

Father: William Mory ⁷⁸ ^,109 ^,454 ^,556 ^,1203 ^,4705 ^,4706 ^,4707 ^,4708 ^,4709 ^,4710 ^,4711 Mother: Jennet Full ¹⁰⁹ ^,454 ^,556 ^,1203

Spouses and Children

1. *Rebecca Catery ³²⁵⁰ Marriage: 22 May 1687 - Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England ³²⁵⁰
Marriage Events
• Alt. Marriage: 1687, Stoke Gabriel, Devon, England.

Notes
General:

30 May 2010: Lanny recorded this baptism while at the Devon Record Office in Exeter from the microfilm of Stoke Gabriel church registers on May 28, 2010:

"Jan 13 1660, birth of William, son of William Morey and Jennet Mory (so spelled)"

I had never known of the existence of William as a son of these parents previously despite many personal viewings of the microfilms available at the LDS FHC and in PANL. I suspect now that this proves there are two microfilms; one of the original register, and one of a transcript made years later. What is surprising is that his existence was never identified by David Tolcher, the online parish clerk who worked as a volunteer on Stoke Gabriel records in 2003 and who consulted the original register for me.

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040414 from FreeReg.org.uk:

County Devon
Place Stoke Gabriel
Church Stoke Gabriel
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 13 Jan 1660/61
Forename William
Sex M
FatherForename William
MotherForename Jennette
FatherSurname MORY
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 21729

190816:
Lanny can be forgiven for having misrecorded the entry in the LDS film because that film is in itself misleading, being of a much later copy which contained errors and omissions. The Find My Past image provided by Bill Full can be clearly seen to read as follows: "[1660] Jan. 13. William filius William Mory & Jennetta uxor." Lanny had either seen "uxor" as Morey or the transcript on the LDS film was erroneous in that regard.

220816:

Here is probate information previously misascribed to his nephew of the same name, son of his brother John who actually was the William Moary buried at Stoke Gabriel on Feb. 25 1729/30:

150204: From Email 694: "Devon, Cornwall & Gloucester: - Wills and Administrations proved in the Consistory Court of the Bishop of Exeter, 1532 to 1800, Burials. Calendar of Wills and Administrations In the Consistory Court of the Bishop of Exeter, 1532 to 1800. 1718 SHR: Devonshire. CTY: ENG. 1718 Morey, William, Stokegabriel A. KLN English Maunder"

110307: NB: I now own a copy of the above CD and viewed this same record today.

Devon, Cornwall & Gloucester: - Wills and Administrations proved in the Consistory Court of the Bishop of Exeter, 1532 to 1800 Burials. Calendar of Wills and Administrations In the Consistory Court of the Bishop of Exeter, 1532 to 1800. 1718 County: Devonshire Country: England 1718 Morey, William, Stokegabriel A.

Alexander Morye

Sex: M
AKA: Allexsander Maurie ⁷¹⁴⁷, Alaxander Morye ⁷¹⁴⁸, Allexsander Morye ⁸⁰⁶
Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1577 - Totnes, Devon, England ⁷⁸ Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Parents

Father: Gregory Mawry ⁷⁸ ^,497 Mother: English Maunder ⁷⁸ ^,497

Spouses and Children

1. *Joane Atwell ⁷⁸ ^,497 Marriage: 3 Jul 1602 - Totnes, Devon, England ⁷⁸ ^,497 ^,806 ^,1474 Marriage Notes

200414 from Family Search:

spouse:Joane Atwill

NameAllexsander Morye
Birth Date
Birthplace
Age
Spouse's NameJoane Atwill
Spouse's Birth Date
Spouse's Birthplace
Spouse's Age
Event Date03 Jul 1602
Event PlaceTotnes,Devon,England
Father's Name
Mother's Name
Spouse's Father's Name
Spouse's Mother's Name
Race
Marital Status
Previous Wife's Name
Spouse's Race
Spouse's Marital Status
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name
Indexing Project (Batch) NumberM05175-1
System OriginEngland-ODM
GS Film number917545
Reference ID

Children: 1. Wilmott Maurie 2. Henrey Morey 3. Sibly Morye 4. George Moore 2. Grace Norris ⁵⁴³ Marriage: 1 Sep 1607 - Exeter, Devon, England ⁵⁴³ ^,806 Marriage Notes

From Ancestry.com 310314:
Name: Alexander Mawry
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 1 Sep 1607
Marriage Place: All Hallows Goldsmith Street,Exeter,Devon,England
Spouse: Grace Norris <http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&ti=0&r=an&db=FS1EnglandMarriages&indiv=try&h=6016571>
FHL Film Number: 547185

Children: 1. Jane Morey 2. Elizabeth Mawry

Notes
General:

From Geoffrey Williams' email 366, dated 10/08/00:

"Henry Morey already has a father, Alexander Morye, who is rock solid brickwall:

1577AlexanderMORYEMKLNc 1577KLN Joan AtwilJoaneATWILLTotnes District of South HamsDEVENGEmail 349 00KLNKLN Joan AtwillMorey Forum"

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

From his email 371 of 20/08/00:

"Here is the real marriage of Alexander Morey and Joan Atwell:

1602AlexanderMORYEMM03 Jul 1602GregoryMAWRYEnglishMAUNDERJoan ATWELLTotnesDistrict of South HamsDEVENGParish RecordsKLN Joan AtwellKLN English MaunderMorey Forum"

Obviously there is a man named Alexander Morey, Morrye or Mawry who is the father of several children, some whose christenings are registered at Totnes and some at Exeter. It is not clear that he is the same man however. If it is him, he married twice, first to Joan Atwill and again, presumably after her death, to Grace Norris in Exeter:

Name: Alexander Mawry
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 1 Sep 1607
Marriage Place: All Hallows Goldsmith Street,Exeter,Devon,England
Spouse: Grace Norris <http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&ti=0&r=an&db=FS1EnglandMarriages&indiv=try&h=6016571>
FHL Film Number: 547185

This is plausible enough to include here but with large emphasis on the PLAUSIBLE, not PROVED.

200414:
I see no reason whatsoever for assuming that the Alexander Morey who married Joan Atwill and bore three children in Totnes would be the same person as the Alexander Mawry who married Grace Norris and had two children by her in Exeter. Totnes and Exeter are not that close to one another and there would need to be a compelling reason for a person to move from one to another. More likely there were two men with similar names in these two cities at about the same time.

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