Ancestors of Christopher John Augustine Morry

Raymond Avalon Percy Payne

      Sex: M

AKA: Raymond A. Payne ³⁹³⁹

Individual Information

Birth Date: 11 Jul 1911 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ³⁹³⁹ ^,7472 Christening: 13 Jul 1911 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁷⁴⁷² Death: 16 Jul 1911 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ³⁹³⁹ ^,7473 Burial: 22 Jul 1911 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁷⁴⁷³ Cause of Death:

Events

• Minister/Priest: H. C. Windsor, 13 Jul 1911, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Alt. Burial: After 16 Jul 1911, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Minister/Priest: H. C. Windsor, 22 Jul 1911, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

Parents

         Father: Thomas Robert Payne ⁶^,20^,283
         Mother: Annie Harriet Sampson ³⁹³⁹
        Marriage Did Not Marry

Notes

General:

290806:

It appears from the caption on the gravestone of Thomas R. Payne dedicated by his 3rd wife Hattie that Raymond was her natural son. The other children appear to have been by his second wife Mary, but I may be wrong on this. I am only deducing it from the evidence I have so far and birth records need to be examined to be sure. In further support of this I note that in his will Thmoas refers to the other three children as "my" son and "my" daughters, not "our" son and daughters.

Living

      Sex: M

Parents

         Father: William H. Payne ²⁸²
         Mother: Mary Elizabeth ¹⁰⁴²

Sarah E. Payne

      Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: 20 Sep 1775 - Upton Hellions, Devon, England ⁷⁴⁷⁴ Christening: 15 Oct 1775 - Upton Hellions, Devon, England ⁷⁴⁷⁵ ^,7476 Death: 15 Feb 1872 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ( at age 96) ²⁷⁷⁷ ^,3266 ^,3683 Burial: After 15 Feb 1872 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ²⁷⁷⁷ Cause of Death:

Events

• Alt. Birth: 5 Nov 1787, Denbury, Devon, England.

• Alt. Birth: 1788.

• Religion: C of E , Converted To Catholicism, 1847, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Religion: Converted to be Roman Catholic, was Baptized and Married in the faith, 21 May 1847, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. M^rs Winser of Aquaforte became a Roman
Catholic last night was baptized & married
.

Parents

         Father: Thomas Payne ¹¹⁵⁶
         Mother: Sarah ¹¹⁵⁶

Spouses and Children

1. *Capt. Hon. Peter Ford Winsor JP MHA ⁶ ^,168 ^,508 ^,7477 Marriage: 5 Dec 1801 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ³²⁸⁸ ^,3683

Marriage Events

• Minister/Priest: John Harries, 5 Dec 1801, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Witnesses: Elizabeth Gascott, Thomas Payne, Richard Penny, 5 Dec 1801, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Marriage Notes

5 August, 2000:

Today I am deleting from this record the existence of a second son Henry (born 1805) who existed according to my Aunt Jean's records but not according to Helen Steinke's more accurate Winsor information.

150113:

5-Dec 1801 St. John's Peter WINSOR Sarah PAYNE Elizabeth Gascott, Francis Payne STJB [Peter Winsor (1781-1864) was born at Denbury, England. He eventually settled at Aquaforte. In the 1830s, he was the member for Ferryland District, in the House of Assembly.]

NB: Notes are by Jill Marshall and/or Kevin Reddigan who are both partially responsible for the collection of Ferryland marriages in St. John's churches that appears on the NGB website.

090818 from Notes by Nimshi Crewe (MG281):

"5 Dec. 1801. Peter Winsor and Sarah Payne were married by me, John Harris. This marriage was solemnized between us: Peter Winsor Sarah Payne In the presence of: Richard Penny Elizabeth Gascott (Her X Mark) Thomas Payne.

Above is an extract from a marriage register of the Anglican Cathedral, St. John's, Nfld.

N. C. Crewe 14 Nov. 1966"

270919:

Anna Elton Morris's research notes given to me by Patricia Lester Pike in July 2019 suggest that they were married in Harbour Grace. I have seen such errors in regard to other marriages that were in fact performed at the Anglican Cathedral and have not found out what the source of this error is.

Children: 1. Capt. Henry Winsor 2. Elizabeth Sarah Winsor 3. Sarah Payne Winsor 4. Jane Winsor 5. Caroline Winsor 6. Capt. Peter Windsor 7. Capt. John Winsor 8. Anna Louisa Winsor

Notes

General:

Place of birth not certain.

160613: I visited and photographed this gravestone yesterday. It reads: In Memory of Peter Winsor Who departed this life Oct. 11 1864 Aged 83 Years ____________ Also Sarah His beloved wife Who departed this Life 15 Feb 1872 Aged 84 Years
Erected by ?????

300621:

There is a problem with this family. The first known child was born in 1804 but then no others are born until 1815. There is no event that has ever been revealed that could explain such a long lapse in births in a family. It is known that Peter and his brother Jacob were held prisoner by the French from 1811 to1814 but this does not explain the long lapse in time between the marriage and the birth of their first son, Henry, and the long lapse between when he was born in 1804 and their next child was born in 1815.

I am of the opinion that the date of marriage and the identification of Capt. Henry Winsor (1804-1850) as their first child are both questionable facts. This may be a different couple of the same names.

More likely this Peter and Sarah did not marry until around 1814 when Peter was released from the French prison and hence Elizabeth Sarah Winsor was their first child. This would require a great deal of research to prove and it might never be possible to do so because of the paucity of information available.

300621:

An extensive search for Sarah and Thomas Payne as brother and sister in Devon at approximately this time turned up two records in the Upton Hellions Church Register two pages apart, parents Sarah and Thomas Payne. This is too much to be a coincidence and I am sure this is they.

Stanley May Payne

      Sex: M

AKA: Stanley M. Payne ²⁰ ^,611

Individual Information

Birth Date: 23 May 1914 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁵¹³³ Christening: 14 Jun 1914 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁵¹³³ Death: 2 Oct 1976 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ( at age 62) ⁴¹¹ Burial: After 2 Oct 1976 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁴¹¹ Cause of Death:

Events

• Alt. Birth: May 1914, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Minister/Priest: John Hewitt, 14 Jun 1914, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Census: Household of William and Mary Maud Payne, 1935, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. (Household Member)

• Occupation: Fisherman, 1935, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Military: Able Seaman, Royal Navy, Between 1939 and 1945, Atlantic Ocean.

• Occupation: Labourer, 18 Jun 1950, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Occupation: Labourer, 18 Nov 1951, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Occupation: Fisherman, 20 Jun 1958, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Occupation: Fisherman, 27 Apr 1960, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Occupation: Fisherman, 30 Sep 1962, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

Parents

         Father: William Henry Payne ²⁸²^,283^,304
         Mother: Mary Maud Hall ⁵¹²⁷

Spouses and Children

1. Living
       Children:
                1. Living
                2. Thomas Wilson Payne
                3. Living
                4. Living
                5. Living
                6. Living

Thomas Payne

      Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1750 - Upton Hellions, Devon, England ¹³ Christening: Death: Bef 27 Mar 1800 - Upton Hellions, Devon, England ³⁴³¹ Burial: 27 Mar 1800 - Upton Hellions, Devon, England ³⁴³¹ Cause of Death:

Events

• Residence: Between 1775 and 1781, Upton Hellions, Devon, England.

Spouses and Children

1. *Sarah ¹¹⁵⁶ 
       Marriage: Bef 1775 - Upton Hellions, Devon, England ¹⁸⁸
       Children:
                1. Sarah E. Payne
                2. Thomas Payne

Notes

General:

030816:

I am connecting Sarah and Thomas Payne to a common but unknown father because it seems unlikely that they both lived in Aquaforte but were not of the same family. However it is possible that they were cousins. This requires more research.

Thomas Payne

      Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: 13 Jul 1817 ³⁰⁴ Christening: Death: Bef 10 Apr 1893 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada Burial: 10 Apr 1893 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ³¹⁹⁶ Cause of Death:

Events

• Residence: Flat Rock, 1859, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

Parents

         Father: Thomas Payne ³⁰⁴
         Mother: Catherine Shihan ³⁰⁴

Spouses and Children

1. *Catherine ³⁰⁴ 
       Marriage: 
       Children:
                1. Peter Payne
                2. Thomas Robert Payne

Thomas Payne

      Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: 4 May 1781 - Upton Hellions, Devon, England ¹¹⁵⁶ Christening: 21 May 1781 - Upton Hellions, Devon, England ¹¹⁵⁶ Death: 4 Jun 1849 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland ( at age 68) ⁷⁴⁷⁸ Burial: 10 Jun 1849 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ²⁹⁶² ^,4863 ^,7479 Cause of Death:

Events

• Occupation: Planter, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Alt. Birth: Cir 1781, Teignmouth, Devon, England. 160119:

Said to be 68 at the time of death/burial.

• Residence: 1821, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Occupation: Constable earning £3 per quarter, 1839, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Residence: Glen then Flat Rock/Little Flat Rock, 1840-1849, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. 1840 - Glen
1841 - Flat Rock
1842 - Little Flat Rock
1844 - ditto
1845 - ditto
1846 - Flat Rock
1847 - ditto
1849 - ditto.

• Alt. Death: Bef 10 Jun 1849, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Alt. Death: 10 Jun 1849, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. 300112: In the NGB transcript of the church record the dates of burial are sometimes mistakenly given as the date of death. It is not known if this is one of those cases.

• Minister/Priest: H. H. Hamilton, 10 Jun 1849, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Alt. Burial: After 10 Jun 1849, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

Parents

         Father: Thomas Payne ¹¹⁵⁶
         Mother: Sarah ¹¹⁵⁶

Spouses and Children

1. *Catherine Shihan ³⁰⁴ Marriage: 3 Nov 1803 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ³⁰⁴

Marriage Events

• Minister/Priest: J. O'Donel, 3 Nov 1803, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Witnesses: Mr. & Mrs. Penney, 3 Nov 1803, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Children: 1. John Payne 2. Elizabeth Payne 3. Catherine Payne 4. Peter Payne 5. Mary Anna Payne 6. Thomas Payne

Notes

General:

Email from Freda Lear dated 5/07/02: "Note: The will of Thomas Payne of Aquaforte mentions wife Catherine. Sons and in-laws are all mentioned as sons. He refers to sons John and John Payne Perryman (? son-in-law), Richard (? Fost) (? son-in-law). He refers to two youngest sons Thomas and Peter. Thomas Payne died on June 10, 1849 (68 years old) at Aquaforte."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

From NGB website:

No. 3

Memorial of the Inhabitants of Aqua Forte Enclosure in Sir Thomas Cochrane Dispatch No. 24 of the 9th October 1827

CO.194.74 297

To the Right Honourable Lord Goderich

Secretary of State for the Colonies

Reports having reached us that it is the Intention of his Majesty's Government to impose a duty upon all articles imported into this Island; and that an increase of Duties on Spirits is also contemplated.

We the principal, but poor Inhabitants of this place, humbly beg to remonstrate against the intended measure; and we Implore of your Lordship's most serious consideration of the depressed state to which we are already reduced, from continued unsuccessful Voyages in the Fishery for we do with truth assert, that if the intended measures takes place and greater burthens laid on us, that it will be impossible for us to subsist.

We confidently hope that your Lordship's quiry into, and faithful representation of these facts, that the intended measures will be abandoned; and in Duty bound we shall ever pray.

Signed at Aquafort September the 28th 1827

Peter Winsor John X Brown (his mark) Thomas Meagher Thomas Payne Robert Bowden Thomas Stamp Edward Condon Robert Sanders John Howlet Michael Cadigan Martin Readigan Matthew Ryan Matthew Harney Richard X Welsh (his mark) James Sisk

Thomas G. Payne

      Sex: M

AKA: Thomas Payne ⁶¹¹ ^,3929

Individual Information

Birth Date: 1922 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁶¹¹ ^,3929 Christening: Death: 24 Jan 1948 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ( at age 26) ¹⁸⁷³ Burial: 25 Jan 1948 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁷⁴⁸⁰ Cause of Death: Pneumonia ⁷⁴⁸⁰

Events

• Census: Household of William and Mary Maud Payne, 1935, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. (Household Member)

• Occupation: Fisherman, Bef 24 Jan 1948, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Alt. Death: Bef 26 Feb 2013.

Parents

         Father: William Henry Payne ²⁸²^,283^,304
         Mother: Mary Maud Hall ⁵¹²⁷

Thomas Gilbert Payne

      Sex: M

Individual Information

Birth Date: 16 Mar 1897 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁴⁹²¹ Christening: 19 Mar 1897 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁴⁹²¹ Death: 1 Jan 1898 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ¹⁸⁷³ ^,6262 Burial: After 1 Jan 1898 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ¹⁸⁷³ Cause of Death: Bronchitis

Events

• Minister/Priest: Henry C. Windsor, 19 Mar 1897, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Received into Church: J. E. Bradford, Priest, 25 Apr 1897, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

Parents

         Father: Thomas Robert Payne ⁶^,20^,283
         Mother: Mary Grace ³⁰⁴^,1218

Thomas Robert Payne

      Sex: M

AKA: Thomas Payne ³⁰⁰⁶

Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1835 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ²⁸² Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:

Events

• Occupation: Fisherman, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Occupation: Fisherman, 23 Mar 1862, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Occupation: Fisherman, 30 Apr 1865, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Occupation: Fisherman, 24 Feb 1867, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Occupation: Fsherman, 15 Aug 1869, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Occupation: Fisherman, Between May and Jun 1877, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Occupation: Fisherman, 29 Nov 1888, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Occupation: Fisherman, 4 Jan 1894, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

Parents

         Father: Thomas Payne ³⁰⁴
         Mother: Catherine ³⁰⁴

Spouses and Children

1. *Caroline Eliza Hall ²⁸² Marriage: 4 Jan 1856 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ²⁵¹¹ ^,5116

Marriage Events

• Minister/Priest: Agustus E. L. Bayley, 4 Jan 1856, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

• Witnesses: Robert Hall, Sarah Frampton, William Frampton, Maria Caroline Paryment, 4 Jan 1856, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Marriage Notes

100119:

NB: The entry in the register says "in this church" without specifying. But since both bride and groom were from Aquaforte and St. Philip's had been built by that time I am taking this to mean that the marriage took place there and not at St. Luke's in Ferryland as this implies

Children: 1. Matilda Payne 2. Anna Mary Payne 3. Thomas Robert Payne 4. William Henry Payne 5. Eliza Celia Tryphena Payne 6. James Gilbert Payne 7. John Charles Payne 8. Catherine Maria Payne 9. Caroline Jane Payne

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