Ancestors of Christopher John Augustine Morry




Living 
      Sex: F
Parents 
         Father: Yan Bulko 543
         Mother: Alzbeta Janockova 543
Mary Bulkova 
      Sex: F
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: Cir 1892 - Vysná Hutka, Slovakia 543
    Christening: 
          Death: 1976 -  ( about age 84) 543
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:
Parents 
         Father: Andrey Bulko 543
         Mother: Maria Yanockova 543
Spouses and Children 
1. *Michael Baka 543 
       Marriage: 
       Children:
                1. Living
                2. Living
                3. John Baka
Yulia Bulkova 
      Sex: F
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: 3 Apr 1898 - Vysná Hutka, Slovakia 543
    Christening: 
          Death: 9 Nov 1965 - Slovakia ( at age 67) 543
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:
Parents 
         Father: Andrey Bulko 543
         Mother: Maria Yanockova 543
Spouses and Children 
1. Living
       Children:
                1. Maria Salagovicova
                2. Ondrey Salagovic
Bullen 
      Sex: M
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: 
    Christening: 
          Death: Bef 1 Apr 2001 53
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death: 

Events

•  Alt. Death: 11 Nov 2000.
Spouses and Children 
1. Living
Bulley 
      Sex: M
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: 
    Christening: 
          Death: 
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:
Spouses and Children 
1. *Anna Martin 594,2627 
       Marriage: Bef 1855
Fanny Bulley 
      Sex: F
AKA: Fanny Bully 2565
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: Cir 1757 - Shaldon with Ringmore, Devon, England
    Christening: 4 Jun 1758 - Kingskerswell, Devon, England 2565
          Death: 7 Mar 1842 - Shaldon with Ringmore, Devon, England ( about age 85) 2565,2628
         Burial: 12 Mar 1842 - Shaldon with Ringmore, Devon, England 2629,2630
 Cause of Death: 

Events

•  Alt. Death: 7 Mar 1834, Shaldon with Ringmore, Devon, England. 131023:

Wherever I got this from, it was an error and should be ignored.
Parents 
         Father: Thomas Bulley 10,425,2631
         Mother: Mary Codner 10,425
Spouses and Children 
1. *John Rendell 10 
       Marriage: 6 Feb 1781 - Shaldon with Ringmore, Devon, England 425,1799,2565
Marriage Notes 




080623 from FMP:

Devon Marriages Transcription
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First name(s) John
Last name Rendell
Marriage year 1781
Marriage date 06 Feb 1781
Spouse's first name(s) Fanny
Spouse's last name Bulley
Place Shaldon with Ringmore
Parish Shaldon
Denomination Anglican
County Devon
Country England
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Record set Devon Marriages And Banns
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, United Kingdom

Devon Family History Society

Transcriptions © Devon Family History Society

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       Children:
                1. Mary Rendell
                2. John Rendell
                3. Thomas Bulley Rendell
                4. Fanny Rendell
                5. William Rendell
                6. Sarah Rendell
                7. Elizabeth Rendell
                8. Elias Rendell
Notes
General:
131023:

Up until today I stood by a date of death that I had forever, and ignored the one that Jean Carter Stirling had given me. I now realise that she was right. Robert Carters Journal for 1842 settles it.

I don't know where I found that earlier date of death but I am making the change today.

George Bulley 
      Sex: M
AKA: George Bully
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: Cir 1790 2632
    Christening: 
          Death: Bef 1820 2632
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:
Spouses and Children 
1. *Eliza Howe Carter 10,33 
       Marriage: 28 Sep 1815 - Exeter, Devon, England 2632

Marriage Events

•  Minister/Priest: William Hutchinson, Curate, Heavitree Angican Parish, 28 Sep 1815, Exeter, Devon, England. 

•  Witnesses: Robert Carter and J. W. Goss, 28 Sep 1815, Exeter, Devon, England. 
Marriage Notes 




240212 from Rootsweb Devon site:

Child of BULLEY is: 29 i.George BULLEY  was born Abt 1790, and died 1820. He married Elizabeth Howe CARTER  28 Sep 1815 in Exeter,Devon,England, daughter of Robert CARTER and Elizabeth Harris HOWE. She was christened 8 Sep 1792, died Dec 1858 in Exeter,Devon,England.

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090418 from FindMyPast:
Devon Marriages Transcription

First name(s)Eliza Howe
Last nameCarter
Marriage year1815
Marriage date28 Sep 1815
Spouse's first name(s)George
Spouse's last nameBulley
DenominationAnglican
ParishHeavitree
PlaceHeavitree
CountyDevon
ArchiveSouth West Heritage Trust
Record setDevon Marriages
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryParish Marriages
Collections fromEngland, United Kingdom
Devon Family History Society

Transcriptions © Devon Family History Society

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300121:
I received a message on Ancestry from a person whose user name is caroanne1950. Her proper name is Carol Roane. This is what she said:

Re Morrys of Newfoundland family tree
I hope you dont mind me contacting you but I think you have the wrong wife for  George Butler Bulley birth 15 Nov. 1794 West Teignmouth Devon Baptised 7 Feb. 1794 West Teignmouth He married Ann Northam 7 Jan. 1828 West Teignmouth Devon England George Bulley of this parish Sail Maker and Ann Northam of this parish by Licence both of age witnesses John Bulley and M. Cousins George signed his name Ann made her mark.
best wishes Carol Roane
09:23 a.m.

I responded:

Dear Carol Roane:
I would not be much of a genealogist if I was not delighted to hear from someone who has information that may correct an error in my family tree! So I thank you for taking the time to make contact and I hope that the two of us can sort out this conflict together. I find it awkward to work through Ancestry (or any other service for that matter) as opposed to one-on-one contact. I wonder would you be willing to connect with me via email at cjmorry@ncf.ca. I have a marriage record for my 1st cousin, 5 times removed, Eliza Howe Carter, to a George Bulley and it is very likely I chose the wrong man of this name since I did not research him very thoroughly. If you can provide alternative information on a marriage of George Butler Bulley that conflicts with the marriage I have for the man simply known as George Bulley I will be better able to make any needed corrections. As it happens, on the marriage record I have there are no others of the name Bulley as witnesses and hence I may have erred in choosing George Butler Bulley as the likely candidate. I look forward to hearing more from you. Thanks once again. Christopher Morry
Read, 02:47 p.m.

She then sent me an email as follows:

cazannie@ Yahoo <cazannie@yahoo.co.uk>

Eliza Howe Carter and George Bulley

cjmorry@ncf.ca

Hi again
I have had a search for Eliza's husband George but I am not finding anything about him. 
I see she married again in 1820 so they were not married very long, I have looked for a death too but found nothing Sorry I can't be of help If I come across him in my searches I will let you know I am compiling a dedicated Bulley family tree and they are popping up all over the place so he might just turn up Best wishes Carol Roane

Sent from my iPad

I replied:

Hello Carol Roane:

Well now I guess you know what I grasped at straws and assumed that the only available George had to be the guy. There just don't seem to be any logical alternatives.

My guess is that even though he shows up in the register as "of this parish" in reality he was a sojourner, probably a mariner, and possibly even from Newfoundland, where the name is not uncommon, though often seen as Bully there.

Anyway, I will keep hunting but in the meantime disconnect Eliza from your man at least offline and eventually online when next I do updates.

Please keep me in mind if anything turns up on the real George.

Cheers

Christopher

C. J. Morry
cjmorry@ncf.ca <mailto:cjmorry@ncf.ca>


So the end result is that I must now remove George Butler Bulley as the husband of Eliza and leave him only as an unknown man named George Bulley for now.
Notes
General:
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300121:
I received a message on Ancestry from a person whose user name is caroanne1950. Her proper name is Carol Roane. This is what she said:

Re Morrys of Newfoundland family tree
I hope you dont mind me contacting you but I think you have the wrong wife for George Butler Bulley birth 15 Nov. 1794 West Teignmouth Devon Baptised 7 Feb. 1794 West Teignmouth He married Ann Northam 7 Jan. 1828 West Teignmouth Devon England George Bulley of this parish Sail Maker and Ann Northam of this parish by Licence both of age witnesses John Bulley and M. Cousins George signed his name Ann made her mark.
best wishes Carol Roane
09:23 a.m.

I responded:

Dear Carol Roane:
I would not be much of a genealogist if I was not delighted to hear from someone who has information that may correct an error in my family tree! So I thank you for taking the time to make contact and I hope that the two of us can sort out this conflict together. I find it awkward to work through Ancestry (or any other service for that matter) as opposed to one-on-one contact. I wonder would you be willing to connect with me via email at cjmorry@ncf.ca. I have a marriage record for my 1st cousin, 5 times removed, Eliza Howe Carter, to a George Bulley and it is very likely I chose the wrong man of this name since I did not research him very thoroughly. If you can provide alternative information on a marriage of George Butler Bulley that conflicts with the marriage I have for the man simply known as George Bulley I will be better able to make any needed corrections. As it happens, on the marriage record I have there are no others of the name Bulley as witnesses and hence I may have erred in choosing George Butler Bulley as the likely candidate. I look forward to hearing more from you. Thanks once again. Christopher Morry
Read, 02:47 p.m.

She then sent me an email as follows:

cazannie@ Yahoo <cazannie@yahoo.co.uk>

Eliza Howe Carter and George Bulley

cjmorry@ncf.ca

Hi again
I have had a search for Eliza's husband George but I am not finding anything about him.
I see she married again in 1820 so they were not married very long, I have looked for a death too but found nothing Sorry I can't be of help If I come across him in my searches I will let you know I am compiling a dedicated Bulley family tree and they are popping up all over the place so he might just turn up Best wishes Carol Roane

Sent from my iPad

I replied:

Hello Carol Roane:

Well now I guess you know what I grasped at straws and assumed that the only available George had to be the guy. There just don't seem to be any logical alternatives.

My guess is that even though he shows up in the register as "of this parish" in reality he was a sojourner, probably a mariner, and possibly even from Newfoundland, where the name is not uncommon, though often seen as Bully there.

Anyway, I will keep hunting but in the meantime disconnect Eliza from your man at least offline and eventually online when next I do updates.

Please keep me in mind if anything turns up on the real George.

Cheers

Christopher

C. J. Morry
cjmorry@ncf.ca <mailto:cjmorry@ncf.ca>


So the end result is that I must now remove George Butler Bulley as the husband of Eliza and leave him only as an unknown man named George Bulley for now.

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FindAGrave gives this enticing hint:
Capt George Bulley
BIRTHunknown
DEATH20 Dec 1817
BURIAL
St Mary Newington Churchyard
Newington, London Borough of Southwark, Greater London, England
MEMORIAL ID121904515 · View Source

The fact that he is a mariner and that Eliza's family were all mariners seems enticing but why would he be buried there and not in Exeter? Perhaps because of this note, which may or may not appear on the gravestone: "Of the Royal Navy. Died age 36 years." The age does not appear to conform with Eliza's husband however.

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310121:

I am becoming more and more convinced that this George Bulley was from Newfoundland where the name was common in those days despite the fact that the marriage record said he was "of this parish". I cannot find any records of him in England. In Newfoundland I found this record of a lease on the NGB website under "Index of Miscellaneous Deeds and Wills (1744-1859 in 22 Volumes)
held at the Provincial Archives of Newfoundland and Labrador (PANL):

1793 LBulley George to McDonald Michael 15169St. John's

Now clearly this could not have been the same man as he was only three at this time but it may very well be his father. Eliza's family was heavily involved in the mercantile enterprises in Newfoundland in those days and would have known this man and possibly been associated with him in business.

Maria Bulley 
      Sex: F
AKA: Maria Bully 121
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: Cir 1809 - Torbryan, Devon, England 121,2633,2634
    Christening: 
          Death: Bef 23 Nov 1890 - Denbury, Devon, England 2635
         Burial: 23 Nov 1890 - Denbury, Devon, England 2635
 Cause of Death: 

Events

•  Census: Household of Henry and Maria Winser, 1841, Denbury, Devon, England.  (Household Member) 

•  Census: Household of Henry and Maria Winser, 22 Lower St., 1851, Denbury, Devon, England.  (Household Member) 

•  Census: 1871 England Census of Household of Henry and Maria Winser, South St., 1871, Denbury, Devon, England.  (Household Member) 

•  Census: 1881 Census of Household of Henry and Maria Winser, West St., 1881, Denbury, Devon, England.  (Household Member) 

•  Alt. Death: Cir 1890, Denbury, Devon, England.
Spouses and Children 
1. *Henry Winser 121,2264 
       Marriage: Cir Apr 1831 - Denbury, Devon, England 2633

Marriage Events

•  Marriage Banns: Apr 1831, Denbury, Devon, England. 
       Children:
                1. Eliza Winser
                2. John Bully Winser
                3. John Bulley Winser
                4. Henry Winser
                5. Jane Winser
                6. Mary Ann Winser
                7. Peter Winser
                8. George Winser
                9. Ellen Maria Winser
Notes
General:
Maiden name is uncertain but may be Bully according to Karen Stevens' notes

Living 
      Sex: F
Spouses and Children 
1. *Gilbert Clapp 2637 
       Marriage: 
Marriage Notes 




231218 from FindMyPast:

Devon Marriages Transcription
Record setDevon Marriages
First name(s)Gilbert
Last nameClapp
Marriage year1798
Spouse's first name(s)Mary
Spouse's last nameBulley
DenominationAnglican
CountyDevon
PlaceShaldon with Ringmore
ArchiveSouth West Heritage Trust
Marriage date01 Oct 1798
ParishShaldon
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryParish Marriages
Collections fromEngland, United Kingdom
Devon Family History Society

Transcriptions © Devon Family History Society


       Children:
                1. Robert Clapp
                2. Dr. William Clapp
                3. Thomas Bulley Clapp
                4. Mary Frances Bulley Clapp
                5. Maria Cecilia Clapp
                6. Capt. John Squarey Clapp
                7. Gilbert Clapp
                8. Caroline Clapp
Thomas Bulley 
      Sex: M
AKA: Thomas Bully 2565
Individual Information 
     Birth Date: Bef 26 Jul 1717 - Kingskerswell, Devon, England 425
    Christening: 26 Jul 1717 - Kingskerswell, Devon, England 2565
          Death: 
         Burial: 
 Cause of Death:
Parents 
         Father: Thomas Bulley 10,425
         Mother: Mary Bully 10,425
Spouses and Children 
1. *Mary Codner 10,425 
       Marriage: 17 Jan 1742/43 - Kingskerswell, Devon, England 425

Marriage Events

•  Alt. Marriage: 17 Jan 1743/44, Devonshire, England. 

•  Alt. Marriage: Cir 1755, Devonshire, England. 
       Children:
                1. Thomas Bully
                2. Mary Bully
                3. Jane Bully
                4. Samuel Bully
                5. Sarah Bully
                6. Elizabeth Bully
                7. Fanny Bulley
                8. Samuel Bully
Notes
General:
050312:

Much for information on the Bulley family is available on the Bulley FTM website but I am not copying over as it is not relevant to the Newfoundland emigrants.


Thomas was youngest of 7 children:Samuel, Jeffrey, Marlanne, John, Rob ert,
Margaret (and possibly also William.)

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