Ancestors of Christopher John Augustine Morry

Nancy Alice Costigan

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: 20 Dec 1931 - Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States of America ³⁸¹⁸ Christening: Death: 4 Aug 2004 - Ocala, Marion, Florida, United States of America ( at age 72) ³⁸¹⁸ Burial: Cause of Death:

Spouses and Children

1. *Robert John Dooley ³⁸¹⁸ Marriage: 1 Aug 1953 - Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States of America ³⁸¹⁸ Marriage Notes

Holy Rosary RC Church
Children: 1. Living

Laurette Côté

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: 22 Jan 1918 - Hanmer, Greater Sudbury, Ontario, Canada ²²¹³ Christening: Death: 23 Jul 2012 - Sudbury, Greater Sudbury, Ontario, Canada ( at age 94) ²²¹³ Burial: Cause of Death:

Spouses and Children

1. *Emile Lafleur ²²¹³ Marriage: 7 Jun 1937 - Hanmer, Greater Sudbury, Ontario, Canada ²²¹³ Children: 1. Marie Cecile Claire Lafleur

Living

Sex: M

Spouses and Children

1. Living

Living

Sex: M

Spouses and Children

1. Living
Marriage Events
• Witnesses: John Colbert, Jane Colbert, 25 Oct 1875, Halifax County, Nova Scotia, Canada. Marriage Notes

NOVA SCOTIA MARRIAGES
Roots in Newfoundland

St. Mary's RC Basilica

HALIFAX
Nova Scotia

RC Marriages
1830 - 1900

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Mary Coughlan

Sex: F
AKA: Mary McClay ³⁸²⁰
Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1824 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ¹³ Christening: Death: Burial: Cause of Death:
Events
• Census: Mary McClay [sic] of Newfoundland, Municipality 2, Ward 4, 1850, New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana, United States of America. From Ancestry.com, 170621
Mary McClay
in the 1850 United States Federal Census
Name:Mary McClay
Gender:Female
Age:24
Birth Year:abt 1826
Birthplace:Newfoundland
Home in 1850:New Orleans Municipality 2 Ward 4, Orleans, Louisiana, USA
Line Number:33
Dwelling Number:544
Family Number:624
Household MembersAge
Hannah B Anderson
35
James R Anderson
7
Mary Reed
40
Alfred Wright
29
Ama L Wright
24
Mary L Wright
1
Josephina Scott
22
Catherine Scott
4
Mary McClay24
Robert McClay
6
Mary Eallonan
14
Buster Reef
20
Nally Gallowan
12
J B Holton
26.

Spouses and Children

1. *Hon. Kenneth McLea Jr. ¹⁴¹ ^,2524 Marriage: Children: 1. Robert B. Mac Lea

Notes
General:

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This is strictly speculation on my part but she may have been a housemaid of the Hon. Kenneth McLea and taken advantage of by him.

Ann Coulman

Sex: F
AKA: Ann Caulman, Ann Coleman ³⁸²¹, Anne Coulman ¹¹⁰⁸ ^,2360, Anne Coulthard ¹¹⁰⁸ ^,2360, Anna Winsor ³⁸²², Anna Sarah Winsor
Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1809 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ³⁸²³ Christening: Death: 22 Feb 1905 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ( about age 96) ¹⁵³⁹ ^,3824 Burial: 3 Mar 1905 - Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ³⁸²⁴ Cause of Death:
Events
• Alt. Birth: 1805.
• Alt. Birth: Cir 1807, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Residence: On the Beach Below the Convent, Cir 1807, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Notes which have been transcribed and copied with many errors over time of an account given to Dad Morry by his maiden aunt Florence (or believed to be) concerning the Morry and Carter and Windsor family connections. She reporte that "Grandmother Winsor" did not much like her own mother and chose to live with Dr. Brand.
• Interesting: Said to have hidden a boy deserter named Quirk from the RN, Cir 1830, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Note that Anna, who may have gotten her information from Dad Morry's memoirs, which also mention this incident, got the date wrong. This was the same incident recorded in the Southern District Court records below in 1849.
• Property: Transfer of ownership of house and lands to three daughters, 16 May 1836, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. (Party)
• Court: Action by Constable Samuel Cose against Anne Winsor, Peter Winsor Jr. and Elizabeth Morry, Between 22 Jun 1849 and 23 Jun 1849, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. This action was precipitated by Constable Samuel Cose in Aquaforte, acting on orders from Constable Richard Sullivan in Ferryland pursuant to a warrant, attempting to arrest a boy (not named) who had run away from his apprenticeship on the Schooner HIRAM in England. He was evidently hiding out in Aquaforte with the collusion of many of the local residents.
From the ferry across Aquaforte Harbour, Cose spied the boy on the other side entering Croft's house and took the boy in charge while he was eating breakfast. As he attempted to conduct his charge by ferry to take him to Ferryland he was stopped by Henry Winsor and his son (not named) who told him he was doing wrong to take the boy in custody. He explained he was only doing his duty and that Richard Sullivan had a warrant for the boy's arrest.
Cose again proceeded to land on the other side from the ferry and took the boy into his own house. When he set out again 10 minutes later, he was by the Store across from "Mr. Winsor's" gate when the boy stopped and would go no further. He said he would throw himself in the harbour to drown because if he returned to the HIRAM, they would throw him overboard before he was half passage.
They started out again and when they were between Condon's and Whelan's houses "Mrs. Henry Winsor" (Anne Coulman, my 3^rd great grandmother) came running up to them and put her arms around Cose and told the boy to run, which he did. Cose then pushed "Mrs. Winsor" to the ground and attempted to chase the boy but her son Peter Winsor Jr. intervened (NB: He was only 14 at the time). Cose pushed him away and was about to begin his pursuit again when Elizabeth Morry (wife of John Henry Morry and daughter of Anne Coulman and Henry Winsor) successfully prevented him from doing so and the boy escaped.
Cose went to see Peter Winsor, Esq. to complain of what had happened but he took no action. This would be another Peter Winsor, actually Peter Ford Winsor, who was an MHA and perhaps not coincidentally had been charged with assaulting Catherine Cose in 1835.

Samuel Cose informed Robert Carter, who was the J. P. in Ferryland at the time and took this deposition that, in the tussle with "Mrs. Henry Winsor", she tore his shirt and damaged his clothing.
Three summonses were issued the following day pursuant to this deposition: to Anne Winsor, wife of Henry Winsor of Aquaforte, Master Mariner; to Peter Winsor "the younger" of Aquaforte (this would be the son of Henry Winsor and Anne Winsor above; and to Elizabeth Morry, wife of John Morry of Ferryland, Trader.
The outcome of the case is not known.

201119:

I have just re-examined the notes by Anna Elton Morris of an interview she had with Tom Goodyear in 1985 in which they discussed Aquaforte and the Winsor/Windsor family in particular. On page 4 of that interview Tom retells a story he heard from Alice [Carey] Brehm:

"Alice recalls her great grandmother, Ann Coulman, telling how she hid a boy deserter from the navy until his ship sailed and then released him. He had been severely and ill-treated on the ship. His name was Quirk. Alice Brehm said Ann Coulman did not like her because she was a Tomboy."

This account clearly relates to the same incident that wound up with Ann and Peter Winsor and Elizabeht Morry being summoned to appear before the Magistrate to answer charges of interfering with the duties of Constable Samuel Cose in arresting a deserter from a vessel but the details are somewhat different and confused, as is always the case with oral history.

I had previously assumed that Anna had heard this story from Dad Morry, who also told of the event but with differing details.

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• Residence: White Hazel Hill, Bef 1850, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Property: Owner of Brig AQUAFORTE, After 9 Dec 1850, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Probate: 30 Aug 1851, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. 010721:

From Jean Carter Stirling's Winsor family history notes:

The Will of Henry Winsor, 1850, appointed his widow, Ann Coulman, as executrice. Probate
30 Aug. 1851. However, she died in 1905 without having fully administered the said estate so it passed along to Peter Winsor of St. John's, shiprigger .. Mentioned in the will are 6 sons: Henry, Peter, Washington Hill, Cedric Howard, Charles Augustus and Alfred Samuel. . . . also
3 daughters:- Ann, Sarah Mary and Maria Victoria. Not mentioned: Elizabeth Sarah, eldest daughter, who was already married.
• Property: Indenture between John Henry Morry & Peter Paint Le Messurier and Ann Coulman-Winsor, Between 16 May 1853 and 28 Oct 1862, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Note that the transfer actually occurred more than a decade before the Indenture was written and recorded with the Southern District Court. This would seem to imply that the initial deal, which apparently occurred without legal formality, may not have been abided by and the Indenture was therefore needed to secure the assets for Ann Winsor.
• Court: Indenture or Sale of Chattels - Henry Winser to Ann Winser, Between 16 Nov 1858 and 2 Nov 1864, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. (Party)
• Court: Indenture between John Henry Morry and Ann Coulman-Winsor, 2 Dec 1864, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Alt. Death: 3 Mar 1876, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Property: Deed in Trust to Holdsworth property from Ann Coulman Winsor, 15 Dec 1881, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. (Party)
• Residence: Living with her daughter Maria Victoria Matilda [Winsor] Morry, 1898, Calvert, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. 040818:

Nimshi Crewe records an observation by Helena Morry Le Messurier that Ann Coulman, her grandmother, died at her house in 1904. The date is slightly off but Helena was not good with dates. I think it is safe to say she had the rest of it right.

261019:

Note that it was a given that she was living in Caplin Bay at and before the time of her death because her name appears in McAlpine's Directory for 1898. Until I saw this reference in Kevin Reddigan's book, Courageous Souls, I was not aware that she resided in Caplin Bay with her daughter, Victoria, for a long time before her actual death. It appears that she must have later moved to St. John's to live with her granddaughter, Robertha, with whom her other granddaughter, Helena, must have been living at the time. Helena was not married until 1910 and therefore would not have had a house of her own in town until then.
• Minister/Priest: H. C. Windsor, L. R., 3 Mar 1905, Aquaforte, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

Parents

Father: William Coulman ¹⁰⁹ ^,168 Mother: Elizabeth Ann Hill ⁵ ^,168 ^,1639

Spouses and Children

1. *Capt. Henry Winsor ³⁰⁰⁰ ^,3825 Marriage: 5 Dec 1826 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ³⁶⁸³ ^,3826
Marriage Events
• Alt. Marriage: 5 Dec 1826, Harbour Grace, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Minister/Priest: J. Burt, 5 Dec 1826, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Witnesses: Elizabeth Coulman, Maria Brazil, 5 Dec 1826, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Marriage Notes

Event Description: From Vital Statistics Records seen on NGB transcript

281015:

There seems to have been a discrepancy in regard to where this marriage took place which came about because the transcript of some of the marriages which seem to have taken place in Harbour Grace according to the transcript found on the NGB website actually show that the event occurred at Ferryland. I do not know why the transcript for Harbour Grace includes some marriages from other locations. Perhaps it is an error on the part of the person who did the transcription or the person who placed the records on the website. I will enquire.

This is what actually appears on the website:

Marriage Date Marriage Place Groom'sName / Bride's Name Age Sta Occupation Residence at Time of Marriage By Whom Married Witnesses Remarks

5 Dec 1826 Ferryland WINSOR Henry (NE) Aquefort J. Burt Elizabeth Coulman COULMAN Ann (NE) Ferryland Maria Brazil

Children: 1. Elizabeth Sarah Winsor 2. Capt. Henry Sweetland Winsor 3. Anne Coulman Winser 4. Sarah Mary Ball Winsor 5. Peter Winsor Foster child 6. Maria Victoria Matilda Winsor 7. Capt. Washington Hill Winsor 8. Cedric Howard Winsor 9. Charles Augustus Winsor 10. Rev. Alfred Samuel Hill Winsor 11. Peter Winsor

Notes
General:

020713:

This is how she spelled her own name in her family bible.

030713:

As found on marriage record apparently, transcribed in brief form on NGB website.

080713:

Nowhere else have I seen her name written as Anna, let alone Anna Sarah. It was always Ann or Anne. Yet I am certain this is her burial record. I suspect she went by the less formal version of her name, whether Ann or Anne.

Name also seen as "Anne Coulman" and "Coleman" (latter appears in Peter Winsor's family bible where mariage date is recorded).

Information on Ann "Hill" (my records all show her maiden name was Coulman) and Henry Winsor marriage and relationships provided in email from Enid O'Brien dated Nov. 2, 1999: "Helena Morry was baptised Jan 5, 1880 (Petty Hr Records) and was the daughter of Robert Morry (son of Matthew Morry/Ann Saunders) and Victoria Matilda Maria Winsor (daughter of Henry Winsor and Ann Hill). Note: Ann Hill is the daughter of Ann (Carter) Hill/Sweetland/Morry. Also, of note is that Elizabeth Sarah Winsor married to Robert's brother, John Henry Morry, is the sister of Victoria (two brothers md two sisters)."

Location of birth not certain but likely.

Enid added more information on 19/07/00:

"(2) Elizabeth Hill (1781-5/3/1842) md (1) Mr. Ball (2) Wm Caulman I found a burial in Petty Hr Rec (CofE) that Elizabeth Caulman was buried on Mar 5/1842, age 61 years. This age would fit in with Elizabeth (Hill) Ball/Caulman. I don't know how many children were from this Elizabeth Hill/Wm Caulman marriage but I think there were at least two(there may be others but I only have two)

(a) Ann Caulman who married Henry Winsor (son of Peter Winsor and Sarah Payne of Aquaforte, ref. Anna Elton Morris who has done extensive research on the Winsors). Also, Petty Hr Rec (CofE) Henry Winsor, son of Henry Winsor and Ann Caulman to Catherine Annie Skinner Carter, dgt of Arthur and Harriet md on 4/1/1855. (wit. Henry Sweetland Morry, Sarah Weston Morry and Elizabeth Rathburn). This confirms that Henry married Ann "Caulman". This Arthur Carter is Arthur Hunt O'Brien Carter (born 1795 and died 20/9/1871 and Harriet Maria Skinner, dgt of Colonel Wm Thomas Skinner and Ann Williams. Harriet was born in St. John's and baptised privately on 10/10/1802 and died in Ferryland circa 1835 (ref Jean Stirling, whose grandfather is a Carter and who is quite involved).

(b) Elizabeth Caulman md 19/2/1844 (Petty Hr Rec) to Matthew Morry. Also, I found in the Gazette June 7, 1884 - Eliza, relict of late Mr Matthew Morry, Sr, on June 5/1884 @ Caplin Bay, age 71 years. (This would mean that she was born in 1813 which would make it about right for a chld of Elizabeth Hill/Wm Caulman/Coleman. "

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260202: Ann Winsor "bought" the Holdsworth property from John Henry Morry and his partner Peter Paint LeMessurier in 1853 (see indenture in scrapbook). Why they sold it to her at less than what they paid for it in 1844 is unclear. I really don't think this was a sale in the conventional sense. I think that she was doing them a favour, because she allowed John and his wife (her daughter, Sarah Elizabeth) to continue living there. In any event, she held onto the property (though I do not know if she herself lived there) until 1881, at which time she gifted it to her grandson, Thomas Graham Morry III, on condition that it be allowed to stay as the home of his maiden sisters until their marriage or death. Two of them never married, but they moved to St. John's and the house remained vacant for a long time. Thomas built his own home in the meantime. See the emails below between me and Fredi Caines concerning these transactions.

From: Chris Morry [chris.morry@sympatico.ca] Sent: February 25, 2002 11:49 PM To: Fredi Caines Subject: RE: T G Morry

Dear Fredi:

This is it! The missing link!!!

To understand what is going on here you need to read this indenture side by side with the one signed between John Morry (our Great Great Grandfather), his partner Peter Paint LeMessurier and Ann Winsor almost 30 years before. I've enclosed a copy of that document, which I transcribed earlier, as well as your text, which I have now cleaned up a little using the words that I know should have been there, where you couldn't interpret the damaged paper. The reason I was able to do this was because the lawyer who prepared the 1881 indenture was lazy! He practically copied word for word the indenture of 1853. In fact the fool even made a serious mistake and didn't pick up on it before having the indenture signed.

If you read your text about half way down he accidentally copied over from the earlier text "... of them the said John Morey and Peter Paint LeMessurier..."

What he should say here is "Ann Winsor", since he is referring to the current owner, not the owners 30 years before!

What the two indentures tell us in effect is that our Great Great Grandfather John never really occupied the Holdsworth House and property,at least not for long. He and Peter Paint LeMessurier bought it from Arthur William Olive Holdsworth in 1844 and owned it together until they sold it to Ann Winsor in 1853. But it doesn't appear to have been used as a family home by either of them, else why would they sell it to Ann?

Two of Ann's children married Morrys. John Henry Morry's wife Elizabeth Sarah Winsor - our Great Great Grandfather and Grandmother. And Maria Victoria Matilda Winsor, who married Robert Morry, John Henry's brother. So you had two Winsor sisters marrying two Morry brothers. How cosy!

Anyway, it now appears from this that Ann either moved from Aquaforte to Ferryland and lived in the Holdsworth house herself after her husband died or she bought it as a present for some of her children to use. I'll have to keep searching to answer that part of the riddle.

But eventually, when she had no need of the house any more herself, she sold it for a buck to our Great Grandfather, Thomas Graham Morry, on condition that he retain it for the use his maiden sisters until they married. Two of them never did (Florence B. - Flossy and Emily Frances Victoria - Fanny). Because of that, Thomas was forced to build another house for his own family, the one Jean owns now, which was almost left to my father before Thomas had a last minute change of heart just before he died.

I don't know when or where Ann Winsor died. She outlived her husband, Henry Winsor, by at least 30 years. I'm sure I'll get the rest of her story after a bit more research.

Can you please check one thing in the 1881 indenture that doesn't look right? At the very end, the document says: "...or their death, then the said lands, messuages, tenements and all and singular the property of T. G. Morey his heirs, executors, administrators and assigns in whom the same shall vest forever." It seems to me there is a word or two missing after "...messuages, tenements and..." something to the effect that in this instance the properties shall go to Thomas for his own use. Maybe the lawyer screwed up again and didn't complete the thought.

Anyway, this is a very important document to help put the whole history of land transfer of the Holdsworth premises through from the Morrys and LeMessuriers, the Winsors and back through the Morrys to the Caines.

Thanks for all your trouble in finding this and taking this down.

Love

Chris -----Original Message----- From: Fredi Caines [mailto:fredi@roadrunner.nf.net] Sent: February 25, 2002 6:59 PM To: Chris Morry Subject: T G Morry

hi chris i think i have what your looking for,its long but i thought you might like the whole thing, it took me about 4 hrs and a magifying glass so words are missing because someone used scotch tape to put it together and it was all dry and yellow but anyway here goes. notice the spelling of Morry except for T Gs signature. please excuse the spelling.

this indenture made at saint johns at the island of nfld. this twentynineth day of nov. anno domini one thousand eight hundred and eighty one. between ann winsor of saint johns aforesaid widow of the first part and thomas g morey of ferryland merchant of the second part witnesseth that for and in consideration of the sum of ONE DOLLAR in hand well and truly paid to her the said ann winsor by the said t g morey the receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged, she the said ann winsor hath granted bargaines sold assigned --------- and set over and by thesepresent doth grant bargain sell assign transfer and set over onto thesaid t g morey his exectors administrators and assigns all her rights title and interest into and out of all those messuages lands tenements her amements and premises at present in possission of john morey situate lying and being in ferryland and comprised within the following limits or boundaries that is to say bounded on the north west by the high road leading to calin bay and on the south west by a certain roch in the harbour ferryland aforesaid called anchor rock. on the the south by the harbour on the south east by property of robert holdsworth and on the north east by the sea shore of caplin bay aforesaid , togeather with all massuags, out houses stores flakes buildings erections yards gardens medows and appurtenenances whatsoever to the same belonging or in anguire appertaining or reputed as part of parcel there of and all the right title interest property claim,demand whatsoever either at law or in equity of them tne said john morey and peter paint lemessiure with all grevsions amd rights to grevsions and all plans and deeds evidences and documents which in anguire gelase to the said premisis or any part thereof to have and to hold onto the said tg morey his exectors administrators and assigns for ever subject nevertheless to the trusts interests and purposes herin after set forth that isto say upon trust that he the said t.g.morey shall hold the said messuage lands and premises aforesaid for the use behalf and benefit of florence b morey, alice w morey,victoria frances morey and jane josephine morey whilst they remain single and unmarried and upon the marriages of the aforesaid florence b morey, alice w morey victoria frances morey and jane josephine morey or there death then the said lands messuages tenements and all and sigular the property of t.g.morey hisheirs exectors administrators and assigns in whom the same shall vestforever in thw witness whereof we have here onto set our hands and seals at saint johns in the island of newfoundland this 29 day of november ao 1881. signes sealed and delivered in the presence of william patterson (having first read and explained) ann winsor made her mark x and T.G. Morry signed .

Any way hope all this makes sense to you, looks like great grandfather T.G. got the place for a dollar to look after all the ladies. From what i remember mom telling me they, the girls, never did marry. You know I wonder if your dad knew about this deal. I don't think my mom did. She would have mentioned it I think. She always commented how the old aunts lived in the lap of luxuary in the palacial homes, isn't it great. I just love all this family history or gossip, whatever u want to call it. Any hope u can make sense of this let me know what you think love fredi

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080713:

May 13, 1876Winsor, Anna SarahAquaforte80Arthur Wayhorne

080713:

In many cases when a person was quite old the relatives did not know their exact age when they died and guessed, usually on the high side. I think this may be the case here.

030713:

I doubt very much this alternate date of death is correct. Many of the dates in the family bible are clearly wrong and this is most likely one such error. The initials "M. A. L. M. " are written after the entry, evidently indicating the source of the information. Presumably this is a Le Messurier, but which one is uncertain.

My guess is that this date of death pertains to her daughter, Anne Coulman Winsor, for whom I do not at present have a date of death. The place of marriage is odd to say the least. It was found in Aunt Jean's information donated to the Latter Day Saints and not in the family bible. But this odd location is supported by information found on the NGB website, The spelling of her name in that marriage record is "Ann Caulman". Her surname is a bit of a mystery as it has been seen spelled several different ways and there does not seem to be any consensus on the proper spelling.

160515:
Ann (or Anna as I am growing to believe she was known) managed to acquire lands in her own right quite apart from what her husband Capt. Henry Winsor may have owned. This included the Holdsworth lands for a while. She bought the property of Arthur Holdsworth from John Henry Morry and Peter Paint Le Messurier and became the owner until she returned the property many years later to my great grandfather, Thomas Graham Morry.

281015:

Ann [Coulman] Winsor could not have died in 1876 because she signed the indenture over to Thomas Graham Morry in 1881. So something is wrong here. I need to find another death record for an Ann or Anna Winsor or Windsor.

030816:
In reviewing Nimshi Crewe's notes of an interview with Helena Morry Le Messurier on March 16, 1960, I note that she said her grandmother who lived to be 98 (this could only be Anne Coulman) remembered where the Baltimore house had been. It is possible, but she probably really only remembered where the old people in her childhood remembered where it had been since she was born in 1807 and it is doubtful anything remained of the house built between 1621 and 1627 by that late date. Especially since it was supposed to have been completely destroyed by the French in 1796.

050916:
It appears that William Coulman may have been previously married and that Elizabeth Ann Hill was in fact his second wife because in 1836 he "sold" his title to his house and appurtenances to his three daughters for a shilling a piece and in the deed he says "all my right and title, that I have in consequence of my Marriage with my present Wife, in the House and Plantation, and all appurtenances thereunto belonging to it situated on the Downs of Ferryland and generally known by the Down's house"
I have never seen any record of an earlier marriage however. But this deed would have ensured that, had he children by an earlier marriage, the property would stay in the hands of his family by his wife in 1836.

A copy of this curious "Bill of Sale" is found in the Media Gallery.

211016:
I am today including in the media gallery all four of the Indentures pertaining to the purchase and sale of the Holdsworth property so that it will be clear to the reader what actually transpired. In the first indenture, John Morry and his business partner and brother-in-law Peter Paint Le Messurier purchased the property from Arthur William Olive Holdsworth, grandson of the original owner. In the second Indenture, John Morry and Peter Paint Le Messurier "sold" the property to John's mother-in-law, Ann Coulman Winsor, though he and her daughter, Sarah Elizabeth continued to occupy the house and lands. This was quite probably a matter of security whereby she gave money to her daughter and husband, whose business interests seemed to be flaging, and also became the de facto owner to head off any claims by potential creditors. Later John also "sold" her his household furnishings, livestock and farming implements, once again almost certainly to head off creditors. Finally she "sold" the property to her grandson, Thomas Graham Morry, on condition he allow his maiden sisters to occupy it whilst they remained single, which turned out to be the rest of their lives (and they outlived him). So the house fell into ruins and was demolished to make way for Dad Morry's new house after the war.

190720:
Further to the odd "Bill of Sale" to the Down's House mentioned above, Robert Carter's diary also alludes to these strange goings on:
Sunday, 5 June 1836
" A light appeared at the house on the Downs last night. On enquiring today found Mrs. Henry Winser was there to take possession of it as having claim thereto."
The person in question is of course Ann né e Coulman, wife of Henry Winsor. She was a granddaughter of Anne Carter, the daughter of the original Robert Carter and her claim was contentious as there was a large number of descendants of both Robert Carter and indeed of his daughter Anne who would have had equal claim on the Carter premises on the Downs.
The property was claimed by William Coulman, Ann' s father, by right of his wife Elizabeth Ann né e Hill' s entitlement as a daughter of Anne Carter and Capt. Samuel Hill. But Elizabeth Ann was not the only child of Anne Carter-Hill-Sweetland-Morry to have a rightful claim on this property in the absence of a will granting it to just one or several of them (none has ever been found nor even mooted). These included her three sons by her second marriage, Lieutenant Henry Sweetland, and William Sweetland, J.P., and Benjamin Sweetland, J.P.
Above and beyond that, the Downs property was also claimable by Anne Carter-Hill-Sweetland-Morry' s siblings and their heirs, including the lines of Judge William Carter and Robert Carter, J.P. (father of the diarist). William Coulman was therefore presuming very much when he divided the Downs property amongst his three daughters, Ann, Eleanor and Elizabeth (SDC Vol 3 Fol 7-8 William Coulman to Ann Winsor Eleanor Jillaird [sic] Eliza Coulman 10-11-1836). No doubt the diarist was aware of this, whether he intended to contest this claim or not.
In due course the property was occupied by Ann [Coulman] Winsor' s sister, Eleanor, and her husband, Capt. John Jellard, though their occupancy seems to have been very brief. A full account of this property, its history and its decline into ruins is contained in the MA Thesis of Duncan Williams complete at MUN in 2019 and entitled: A Large House On The Downs: Household Archaeology And Middle-Class Gentility In Early 19th-Century Ferryland, Newfoundland.

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010721:

From Jean Carter Stirling's Winsor family history notes:

The Will of Henry Winsor, 1850, appointed his widow, Ann Coulman, as executrice. Probate
30 Aug. 1851. However, she died in 1905 without having fully administered the said estate so it passed along to Peter Winsor of St. John's, shiprigger .. Mentioned in the will are 6 sons: Henry, Peter, Washington Hill, Cedric Howard, Charles Augustus and Alfred Samuel. . . . also
3 daughters:- Ann, Sarah Mary and Maria Victoria. Not mentioned: Elizabeth Sarah, eldest daughter, who was already married.

Robert Carter's Journal: Sun. 8/1211850: Capt. Hy. Winsor of Aquaforte died there last night or towards morning; has been ill several days 12/12 - Went to Aquaforte to attend as bearer at the funeral of Henry Winsor, eldest son of Peter of that place, age 46 years.

Enid O'Brien's research: Winsor, widow of Henry Winsor died 22 Feb. 1905 age 99. ¹⁶⁸ ^,1539 ^,3827 ^,3828

Eleanor Coulman

Sex: F
AKA: Eleanor Coleman ¹⁸⁶⁵, Elenor Jellard ³⁸²⁹, Elinor Jellard ³⁸³⁰, Ellen Jellard ¹³⁷⁵ ^,1688 ^,2962 ^,3831
Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1812 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ³⁸³⁰ Christening: Death: Jul-Sep 1895 - Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England ( about age 83) ²⁴⁰³ Burial: Cause of Death:
Events
• Alt. Birth: Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Alt. Birth: Cir 1813, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Property: Transfer of ownership of house and lands to three daughters, 16 May 1836, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. (Party)
• Residence: Occupied the "Down's House" but by questionable entitlement, After 5 Jun 1836, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. (Occupant)
• Illness: Had a very serious miscarriage that almost claimed her life as well as the child's, Jun 1844, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Tuesday June 18 1844
"M^rs Jellard recently confined of still born & very ill -"

Wednesday June 19 1844
"M^rs Jellard very ill today recovery doubtful"
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• Residence: According to Robert Carter's diaries, Cir May 1845, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Residence: 1856-1857, Shaldon with Ringmore, Devon, England. (Occupant)
• Residence: 10 Upper Parliament St., Bef May 1860, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.
• Probate: Granted Probate to estate of late husband, John Jellard, 6 Jul 1861, Liverpool, Lancashire, England.
• Residence: 6 Jul 1861, Liverpool, Lancashire, England.
• Residence: Age: 59; Relation to Head of House: Head, 1871, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England.
• Residence: 10 Upper Parliament St., Toxteth Park, 27 Jul 1861, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. (Occupant)
• Residence: Age: 68; Relation to Head of House: Head; Marital Status: Widower, 1881, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England.
• Residence: living with daughter Annie S., 1881, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England.
• Census: Household of Eleanor Jellard, Widow, 10 Parliament St., 1891, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England.
• Residence: living with daughter Annie S., 1891, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England.
• Alt. Death: Sep 1895, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England.

Parents

Father: William Coulman ¹⁰⁹ ^,168 Mother: Elizabeth Ann Hill ⁵ ^,168 ^,1639

Spouses and Children

1. *Capt. John Jellard ⁵ ^,1375 Marriage: 22 Aug 1835 - St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ¹⁸⁶⁵ ^,3832 ^,3833
Marriage Events
• Alt. Marriage: 6 Apr 1835, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Minister/Priest: Frederic H. Carrington, A.B., 22 Aug 1835, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Witnesses: Philip and Sarah Tree, 22 Aug 1835, St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Marriage Notes

150113:
From Jean Carter Stirling's Family Tree:
22-Aug 1835 St. Johns John JELLARD?, bach, Ferryland. [Old records indicate that John Jellard leased the old Sweetland home on the Downs at Ferryland] Eleanor COLMAN, spin, Ferryland [most likely the daughter of William and Elizabeth Coleman] Philip Tree, Sarah Tree STJB [Surnames of witnesses were transcribed as Free.]

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190723:
Interestingly, in his own words, found in his John Jellard's Journal, he states that his date of marriage was the 23rd of August:

"Saturday, 23rd [1856], This day twenty two years I was married. It is a long time to look forward but nothing to look back."at this point in the voyage they were nowhere near the international date line and hence this could not have been the reason for the discrepancy. Moreover, he had the number of years since his marriage wrong since it would have been 21, not 22.
Children: 1. Mary Paige Jellard 2. Selina Jellard 3. Ann Sweetland Jellard 4. Elizabeth Hill Jellard 5. John Jellard

Notes
General:

230816:

In an email Enid O'Brien speculated that this Eleanor Coulman was a daughter of William and Elizabeth. We don't yet know that to be a fact but it seems highly likely. Enid notes:

"I believe that Elizabeth (Hill) and William Caulman had at least one other child and most likely two besides those mentioned and that would be Eleanor Colman/Caulman (FD) md to John Jellard (bach) FD Wit Philip Tree/Sarah Tree (Ang Cath April 6, 1835). I am sure that this is their dgt because in the Nfld Vindicator 1842 there was a complaint that there were too many of Judge Carter's relatives on a Special Jury and they mentioned John Jellard married to granddgt of Judge Carter. I also think that Ann Caulman md Henry Winsor is a dgt because their son, Washington Winsor, had a son John Jellard Winsor (and you know how they like to keep the names in the family).

050916:
It appears that William Coulman may have been previously married and that Elizabeth Ann Hill was in fact his second wife because in 1836 he "sold" his title to his house and appurtenances to his three daughters for a shilling a piece and in the deed he says "all my right and title, that I have in consequence of my Marriage with my present Wife, in the House and Plantation, and all appurtenances thereunto belonging to it situated on the Downs of Ferryland and generally known by the Down's house"
I have never seen any record of an earlier marriage however. But this deed would have ensured that, had he children by an earlier marriage, the property would stay in the hands of his family by his wife in 1836.

A copy of this curious "Bill of Sale" is found in the Media Gallery.

201023:

From Robert Carter's Journal for June 1844 we learn the following:

Tuesday June 18 1844
"M^rs Jellard recently confined of still born & very ill -"

Wednesday June 19 1844
"M^rs Jellard very ill today recovery doubtful"

Of course we do know that she survived and outlived her husband.

Elizabeth Coulman

Sex: F
AKA: Eliza Colman ³⁰⁰⁶ ^,3834, Eliza Morry ³⁸³⁵
Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1813 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ¹⁴¹ Christening: Death: 5 Jun 1884 - Calvert, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ( about age 71) ¹⁴¹ ^,3836 Burial: Cause of Death:
Events
• Property: Transfer of ownership of house and lands to three daughters, 16 May 1836, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. (Party)
• Occupation: Teacher, 1837, Calvert, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. From "A Study of the Settlement of Ferryland" by Sister Esther Moore at the MHA we learn that: "There was little increase in school enrollment when in 1837, twenty-six pupils learned their three R's from Elizabeth Caulman [sic]."
• Occupation: Planter & Merchant Caplin Bay (now Calvert), Between 1844 and 1852, Calvert, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. (Witness)
• Documentation: Letter from Priscilla Morry Le Messurier to Eliza Coulman Morry in Caplin Bay - CJM Collection, 3 Apr 1861, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

Parents

Father: William Coulman ¹⁰⁹ ^,168 Mother: Elizabeth Ann Hill ⁵ ^,168 ^,1639

Spouses and Children

1. *Matthew Morry III ¹⁶⁸ ^,497 Marriage: 19 Feb 1844 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ²⁵¹¹ ^,2962 ^,3834 ^,3837 ^,3838
Marriage Events
• Alt. Marriage: 19 Feb 1844, Petty Harbour, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Minister/Priest: W. J. Hoyles, 19 Feb 1844, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Witnesses: John Jellard, George Le Messurier, William Coulman, 19 Feb 1844, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Marriage Notes

090621: From Jean Carter Stirling's transcript of Petty Harbour records

1844Morry, Matthew bachelor and Eliza Coleman spinster, the former of Caplin Bay and the latter of Ferryland, were married by me in the Church at Ferryland 19 February, 1844. W.J. Hoyles. Witnesses: John Jellard, George LeMessurier, William Coulman.

Children: 1. Elizabeth Ann Morry 2. Matthew Morry IV 3. Priscilla Ellen Morry 4. William George Morry 5. Henry Winsor Morry 6. Alfred Canning

Notes
General:

15/9/99 Eliza Coleman's parentage and connection back to the Carter line was described definitively by Enid O'Brien

A link to "Elizabeth Coleman" married to "Matthew Morry" with a son named Matthew Morry was found on the LDS site and incorporated as the same people here July 3, 2000.

Enid added this information on 19/07/00

(b) Elizabeth Caulman md 19/2/1844 (Petty Hr Rec) to Matthew Morry. Also, I found in the Gazette June 7, 1884 - Eliza, relict of late Mr Matthew Morry, Sr, on June 5/1884 @ Caplin Bay, age 71 years. (This would mean that she was born in 1813 which would make it about right for a child of Elizabeth Hill/Wm Caulman/Coleman.

Cof E Records show her name as Eliza Colman and the witnesses to marriage as John Jellard, George LeMessurier and William Coulman with the Minister being W. J. Hoyles (NLGS report of C of E ferryland records)

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24/03/02 email from Enid O'Brien:

Subject: Re: Occupation of Athlone by the Morrys Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:31:00 -0800 (PST) From: Enid O'Brien <enidobrien@yahoo.com> To: Chris Morry <chris.morry@sympatico.ca>

Dear Chris & Kevin:

I have found out that Athlone wasn't the Morry's house at all but a place. The Morry house was probably in Athlone. I found this in the Minutes of the Commissioners of the Board of Education taken at the Ferryland Court house on 20th July 1836. The commissioners were Rev Timothy Browne, Clerk in Holy Orders, RC Church, Robert Carter, (RN, Captain), Robert Carter (Customs), Benjamin Sweetland, JP, Thos Wright, Thos Congdon, Peter Windser and Matthew Morry. The jest of the documents is that they met to allot funds for the schools. They named 12 places and the funds allowed to each are as follows -

1 Renews 16 pounds (I don't have the symbol) 2. Fermeuse 12 3. Aquaforte 10 4. Ferryland 17 5. Caplin Bay 10 6. Cape Broyle 10 7. Brigus 10 8. Toad's Cove 10 9. Mobile 10 10 Witless Bay 12 11. Bay Bulls 15 12 Athlone 5

These are all in English pounds .

Note that it says Caplin Bay and Athlone. Further down in the document it states these sums were based proportionally according to the census of 1836 and the population of Athlone is given as 164. This couldn't possibly be a house with a population of 164. The school teacher at Athlone was Jane Cashin and Elizabeth Caulman was at Caplin Bay (I believe these are the Cashin's that came to Cape Broyle and antecedants of Sir Michael Cashin, as folklore has the Cashin's first living at Caplin Bay). I guess this solves the mystery as why the name Athlone might have been given to the area as there were most likely Irish people living there as well.

I need to get back to you later re your previous e-mails.

Regards.

Enid

200806: BDM notes a death announcement on 10 June 1884 in: 1) Gazette (Royal Newfoundland Gazette) 1807- 2) Times and General Commercial Gazette 1832-1895

It refers to her as Eliza Morey and Deceased was the widow of the late Matthew Morey, Jr.

This supports my belief that this family of Morrys in Caplin Bay adhered to the old spelliing of the surname unlike their close relations in Ferryland. Birth notices for William George's first two children also used the same spelling of the surname.

261106:
George LeMessurier's family tree makes note of fact that Eliza Coulman was the granddaughter of the Ann Carter who first married Samuel Hill.

160810:
Willeen Keough's partial family tree of the Carter's shows her marrying first Henry Brand. This is a mistake. She never married anyone prior to Matthew so far as is known.

050916:
It appears that William Coulman may have been previously married and that Elizabeth Ann Hill was in fact his second wife because in 1836 he "sold" his title to his house and appurtenances to his three daughters for a shilling a piece and in the deed he says "all my right and title, that I have in consequence of my Marriage with my present Wife, in the House and Plantation, and all appurtenances thereunto belonging to it situated on the Downs of Ferryland and generally known by the Down's house"
I have never seen any record of an earlier marriage however. But this deed would have ensured that, had he children by an earlier marriage, the property would stay in the hands of his family by his wife in 1836.

A copy of this curious "Bill of Sale" is found in the Media Gallery.

William Coulman

Sex: M
AKA: William Coleman ³⁸⁴³
Individual Information

Birth Date: Cir 1787 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ²⁸² ^,3843 Christening: Death: Bef 4 Jan 1867 - Calvert, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ²⁸² ^,2958 ^,3843 Burial: 4 Jan 1867 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ²⁹⁵⁸ ^,2962 ^,3843 Cause of Death:
Events
• Court: Matthew Morry, Jun. v. Andrew Morrison, 23 May 1826, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. (Juror)
• Court: Isaac S. Prowse v. William Coulman, Third Sitting of the Southern Circuit Court, 2 Oct 1827, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Isaac S. Prowse v. William Coulman. Remand from previous term. Niether party appearing, case was dismissed.
• Court: Member of officials at 6th sitting of Southern Circuit Court, Between 26 Oct 1830 and 6 Nov 1830, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. (Foreman)
• Court: William Coulman v John Kinsella at 6th sitting of Southern Circuit Court, 1 Nov 1830, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Action to recover £9.0.0. Settled.
• Property: Transfer of ownership of house and lands to three daughters, 16 May 1836, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Court: Coulman, William v William & Benjamin Sweetland at 1837 sitting of Southern Circuit Court, Between 3 Nov 1837 and 10 Nov 1837, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. Trespass & Ejectment. Settled.
• Alt. Death: Athlone,, 4 Jan 1867, Calvert, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
• Minister/Priest: Buried by John Whitem Church Warden, in my absence, John M. Noel, 4 Jan 1867, Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

Spouses and Children

1. *Elizabeth Ann Hill ⁵ ^,168 ^,1639 Marriage: 1805 - Ferryland, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada ⁵⁶ Children: 1. Ann Coulman 2. Eleanor Coulman 3. Elizabeth Coulman

Notes
General:

Name also spelled Caulman according to Enid O'Brien (8/9/99) and (19/07/00); Also Coleman on Death certificate at C of E.

William Coleman is listed on the Ferryland voters list of 1840 as being from the Chapel neighbourhood, 1842 as from South Side, 1845 as from Pool, and again from Pool in 1846, 1852, 1855. In 1859 he is listed as William Coleman (left) Pool (which seems to indicate that he was no longer resident there).

Email from Lanny dated 07/02/01: 3. William Coulman, born 1787 at Ferryland, who married Elizabeth Hill is, I think the William Coleman who died at the age of 80 on January 4, 1867. I say this because the record of his death says he died at Athlone, Caplin Bay. Surely the fact age at death matches and Athlone has our family connection makes this a match with the William Coulman of the alternative spelling.

and my reply: Coleman, Coulman and Caulman are all spellings used for the same family name. I have seen the William to whom you refer (wife of Elizabeth Hill, and father of our Great Great Great Grandaunt) called all three.

I know that he lived in various parts of Ferryland because his name appears on voters lists from 1840 to 1855 as a resident of South Side and the Pool in different years but I also know he left Ferryland for parts unknown late in life - the 1859 voters list indicates he left Pool but doesn't say where he wound up. It is quite possible, as you surmise that he wound up in Caplin Bay (Calvert) at Athlone, which was no longer the Morry house by then. They had moved just before that in the other direction - to Ferryland. Who knows, maybe they traded houses!

Same name, same family house, same birth date. Sounds like a match.

130810: Note that the above information is incorrect. The Morrys did not abandon Athlone for Ferryland. One branch of the family, that of Matthew III and Elizabeth Coulman, occupied Athlone until the death of their daughter, Miss Lizzie, in 1930, at which time the property was taken over by Leonard Canning, the son of an informally adopted "son" of Matthew and Elizabeth, Alfred Canning.

050916:
It appears that William Coulman may have been previously married and that Elizabeth Ann Hill was in fact his second wife because in 1836 he "sold" his title to his house and appurtenances to his three daughters for a shilling a piece and in the deed he says "all my right and title, that I have in consequence of my Marriage with my present Wife, in the House and Plantation, and all appurtenances thereunto belonging to it situated on the Downs of Ferryland and generally known by the Down's house"

I have never seen any record of an earlier marriage however. But this deed would have ensured that, if he had children by an earlier marriage, the property would stay in the hands of his family by his wife in 1836.

A copy of this curious "Bill of Sale" is found in the Media Gallery.

140618:
Actually, I realise now that I misunderstood the reasoning for this odd language on the document in which he divides his property. He was not married previously, but his wife Elizabeth Ann Hill was. And he was ensuring that none of his property wound up in the hands of the child of her first marriage, Sarah Ball.

Alice Betty Coulthard

Sex: F

Individual Information

Birth Date: 9 Dec 1919 - South Dakota, United States of America ³⁴⁵ Christening: Death: 17 Feb 1975 - Stanislaus, California, United States of America ( at age 55) ³⁴⁵ Burial: Cause of Death:
Events
• Alt. Birth: Cir 1920, South Dakota, United States of America.
• Census: 1910 Orchard Avenue, 1930, Glendale, Los Angeles, California, United States of America. (Household Member)
• Census: 1910 Orchard Drive, 1930, Glendale, Los Angeles, California, United States of America.
• Census: 1322 Carlos Avenue, 1940, Burlingame, San Mateo, California, United States of America. Same house in 1935.

Parents

Father: Samuel Arthur Coulthard ³⁷²¹ Mother: Cora Agnes Cooper ³⁴⁵ ^,3720 ^,3721

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